#87945
11/27/2002 11:51 PM
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I think we did something like this last year this time.
But how 'bout brainstorming words related to the turkey, humorous, tangential, or otherwise?
I'll begin:
1. turkey (the fowl)
2. meleagrine (tsuwm finally pounded it into my head)
3. wattles
4. snood
5. beak
6. wishbone
7. turkey (a lousy production)
8. gobble
9. gobbler
10. hen
11. turkey call (the wooden object you rub to make the call)
12. "Turkey in the Straw" (fiddle tune)
13. Benjamin Franklin ('cuz he wanted the turkey to the be national bird of the US)
14. Wild Turkey (the liquor; very good)
15. club sandwiches ('cuz turkey's good on 'em)
16. turkey trot (whatever that is)
17. turkey shoot (whatever that is)
18. Turkmenistan (just to see whether anybody's still reading)
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#87946
11/28/2002 12:17 AM
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13. Benjamin Franklin ('cuz he wanted the turkey to the be national bird of the US)
We got turkeys up the yingyang; the eagle is an endangered species.
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#87947
11/28/2002 1:31 AM
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Dear Faldage: Der Qvibblemeister says I checked and eagles are listed as "Threatened" which is a trifle less serious than "endangered" is it not? http://ecos.fws.gov/servlet/SpeciesProfile?spcode=B008
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#87948
11/28/2002 2:13 AM
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It's hard to soar with the eagles when you're surrounded by turkeys.
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#87949
11/28/2002 2:28 AM
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Only true if you are a turkey.
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11/28/2002 2:34 AM
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engastration - The action of stuffing one fowl inside another. Engastration of stuffed pies, one bird within another.. The passion for engastration seems to have had its admirers in all ages. - The School for good living; an essay on the European kitchen 1814 Copyright © Oxford University Press 2002 a case in (grosse) point: http://origins.colorado.edu/~kachun/turducken.shtml
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11/28/2002 2:56 AM
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Re: engastration
So, if you invite that relative of yours who's a turkey to the feast tomorrow and stuff him with turkey, you've engastrated that Thanksgiving guest?
19. engastration (thanks, tsuwm)
20. gallinaceous (see, tsuwm, I pay attention)
21. avian
22. aviary
23. foot
24. foot (the vb.; don't ask)
25. turkey à la king
26. Turkish taffy
27. "Marche à la Turk" (sp?)
28. trimmings
29. stuffing
30. dressing
31. turkey roll (horrible stuff)
32. tail feathers (Hi, Jackie)
33. Faldage, wwh, and tsuwm (tangential turkeys)
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#87952
11/28/2002 3:06 AM
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formerly known as etaoin...
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#87953
11/28/2002 3:30 AM
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"Biji Turkiye" (Long live Turkey.)
Also, wwh's "rictus" (xthread)
Et: What is this blue rondo?
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#87954
11/28/2002 3:33 AM
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And addicts deprived of drugs experience "cold turkey". Frrom Merriam-Webster:
Script for April 27, 2000
A listener's question about the expression cold turkey
inspired us to head straight for our slang files. Here's what
we dug up about the term that means "an abrupt complete
cessation of the use of an addictive drug; the symptoms
experienced by a person undergoing withdrawal from a
drug; or, without a period of gradual adjustment, adaptation,
or withdrawal."
One theory speculates that "cold turkey may derive from the
cold, clammy feel of the skin during withdrawal, like a
turkey that has been refrigerated." Columnist Herb Caen
dished up this tasty morsel on cold turkey: "It derives from
the hideous combination of goosepimples and what William
Burroughs calls 'the cold burn' that addicts suffer as they
kick the habit."
These explanations may sound plausible, but our
commitment to the truth forces us to dispose of these
theories cold turkey. Why? Because the phrase cold turkey
did not originate in the drug culture. When cold turkey was
first found in print in 1910, it was synonymous with outright,
as in, "I'd lost five thousand dollars cold turkey." The first
use of the expression in connection with drug withdrawal
was not recorded until 1921.
So when did the idea of cold turkey first get cooked up?
No one knows for sure, but since folks have been talking
turkey -- that is, speaking frankly and without reserve --
since at least the early 1900s, etymologists speculate that the
"all at once" sense of cold turkey developed sometime after
that, before being borrowed into the drug culture.
Cook up some suggestions and send them our way. Our
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#87955
11/28/2002 3:43 AM
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farctate--adj. (FARK-tate)--stuffed, filled. (from tsuwm's back words tshirt link) farctate turducken  (almost sounds like another language!) But I think I would've kept the "k" in tur kducken, to keep that turd out of there...I mean, who wants to eat that? Plus, I'm a big fan of alliteration. Oh, for those of you who don't do wfftd..stuff a chicken into a duck into a turkey, roast or bar-b-que, and you have a turducken!
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11/28/2002 11:55 AM
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What is this blue rondo?
a jazz tune made popular by Dave Brubeck, from the same album as Take Five. I say made popular, rather than written, because I'm not sure that Brubeck wrote it; it may have been Paul Desmond. sadly, I'm without that record right now, so I can't check!
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#87957
11/28/2002 12:21 PM
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I would've kept the "k" in turkducken
I agree that it makes better poetic sense in the phrase farctate turkducken with the rkd of turkducken echoing the rct of farctate.
Obviousizing what WO'N meant by alliteration.
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#87958
11/28/2002 1:26 PM
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Q: What is this blue rondo?
A: a jazz tune made popular by Dave Brubeck, from the same album as Take Five.
But the original Turkish Rondo refers to the Rondo alla Turca, from one of Mozart's piano sonatas.
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11/28/2002 1:45 PM
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thank you wofa, for that completion!
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#87960
11/28/2002 2:54 PM
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The action of stuffing one fowl inside another. it's no engastration, it's cruelty 
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11/28/2002 3:12 PM
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Medieval chefs were expected to invent spectacular surprises. Engastration was just an
example of this. Remember the nursery rhyme:
Sing a song of sixpence,
A pocket full of rye;
Four and twenty blackbirds
Baked in a pie.
When the pie was opened,
They all began to sing.
Now, wasn't that a dainty dish
To set before the King?
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#87962
11/28/2002 3:35 PM
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Point well taken. Isn't there also a more allegorical/pointed/satirical/political meaning (as with many other "nursery" rhymes)? It was a particular King that was meant, and the 24 blackbirds were some real noblemen, and such like? Any historians available?
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#87963
11/28/2002 4:59 PM
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Dear wofahulicodoc: The only nursery rhyme with genuine historical background is that of
Little Jack Horner, about which we had several posts fairly recently. I have read "folksetymology"
equivalent allegation about others, but know not how to check themm
Incidentally, in the old days oven temperatures were comparatively low, and birds had to be
stuffed to keep them from being dried out too much during slow cooki;ng. With today's hot ovens
cooking times are much shorter, and many state health departments forbid restaurants' stuffing
birds as Salmonella may not be killed if cold things such as whole apples are used along with
the bread crumbs etc. Can't resist adding bit of humor from caroon Moon Mullins many years ago.
To give Mamie a break from cooking, Willie cooks the bird. Little Kayo asks for some stuffing, and
Willie says "There ain't none. This bird wasn't hollow." Last frame shows Mamie beating Willie over
the head with turkey with all viscera still inside.
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