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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread Page 2 of 2 1 2 Re: The sliding floor #86113 11/11/2002 6:45 PM Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont 'cept it's pronounced "lee" (just like "mi" and "ti"). yes, thanks, muse. but now you've got me thinking that all my work with solfege for my 5th and 6th grade chorus is ruining them.... aauuggghhh.. do you know of any good atonal music for 10 year olds...? formerly known as etaoin... Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: The sliding floor #86114 11/11/2002 6:57 PM Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,542 this too shall pass tsuwm Carpal Tunnel tsuwm Carpal Tunnel Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,542 this too shall pass >do you know of any good atonal music for 10 year olds...? or (one might ask), do you know of any good atonal music for 50-year olds? (etc.) - John Cage Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: good atonal #86115 11/11/2002 8:52 PM Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 6,511 lower upstate New York AnnaStrophic Carpal Tunnel AnnaStrophic Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 6,511 lower upstate New York ... zat anything like 'military intelligence'? Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: good atonal #86116 11/11/2002 9:03 PM Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky Jackie Carpal Tunnel Jackie Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky Egg-zactly, Anna! You took the sentiment right out of my mouth. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: atonal, schmatonal #86117 11/11/2002 9:20 PM Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 6,511 lower upstate New York AnnaStrophic Carpal Tunnel AnnaStrophic Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 6,511 lower upstate New York You took the sentiment right out of my mouth. hehehe... long as I didn't take the statement off your face. cross-threading... Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: good atonal #86118 11/11/2002 9:21 PM Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont serially folks, maybe Wozzeck for children? well if I can't teach my kids to sing in tune anymore... formerly known as etaoin... Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: atonal, schmatonal #86119 11/11/2002 9:31 PM Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,542 this too shall pass tsuwm Carpal Tunnel tsuwm Carpal Tunnel Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,542 this too shall pass do you know of any good atonal music for chopped liver (or mince meat for that matter)? Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: atonal, schmatonal #86120 11/12/2002 2:18 AM Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky Jackie Carpal Tunnel Jackie Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky atonal music for chopped liver (or mince meat for that matter)? Tony, is that a threat or a promise? Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: veumes #86121 11/12/2002 10:31 AM Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 2,636 Caribbean consuelo Carpal Tunnel consuelo Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 2,636 Caribbean ¿Quieres papitas francesas con éso? Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: veumes #86122 11/12/2002 12:07 PM Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Faldage Carpal Tunnel Faldage Carpal Tunnel Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Para mi, cebollas anilladas, por favor. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: good atonal #86123 11/12/2002 12:37 PM Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 6,296 Piedmont Region of Virginia, U... Wordwind Carpal Tunnel Wordwind Carpal Tunnel Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 6,296 Piedmont Region of Virginia, U... Leaping into atonal music may be too big a leap for kids. I'd suggest Charles Ives as a bridge. He mixes chords to cause exciting dissonances. Take a look at his organ arrangement of "America." It's wild and crazy and dissonant and wonderful. Better still, find some concert in which it's being performed live on a monster organ. Ives' "America" is about as exciting as the grand finale of Respighi's Pines of Rome. I'd say once Ives' music is palatable and enjoyable to you, then it's easier to listen to atonal arrangements. You've rescrewed on your ears by then through Ives. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: good atonal #86124 11/12/2002 1:00 PM Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont Ives is a great suggestion. I was thinking about kids singing, and whether or not teaching them solfege was going to train their ears too much to "Western Harmony". I had never thought about solfege being a "well-tempered" sort of thing. we're hoping to get the Tuvan Throat Singers here for an assembly this coming Spring, so that ought to open the kids ears!! http://makeashorterlink.com/?X64E21B62 formerly known as etaoin... Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Curry and Ives #86125 11/12/2002 5:25 PM Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 2,661 Chicago musick Carpal Tunnel musick Carpal Tunnel Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 2,661 Chicago ... yeahbut® you *guys prolly like blue cheese and curry. J - Whaddya doin with sediment in your mouth anywho? cc - Por que no Yago Sangria? etaoin - It's not about teaching them to sing in tune (good luck with that), it's about intervalic recognition and balancing mindless (did I say that?) repetition with an even exposure to all of the available tonal combinations. Paul Hindemith has an excellent ear training study guide! The word tonality as western music uses it is a misnomer. Now that I think of it, it reminds me of that "f" word. 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