#85843
11/05/2002 11:21 PM
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I haven't seen this one before. It seems to have some good features. URL is quite long. http://www.bigchalk.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/WOPortal.woa/wa/BCPageDA/sec~CAB~19347~~ Here it is shortened: http://makeashorterlink.com/?J54A12B52
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#85844
11/07/2002 9:49 AM
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In reply to:
the substitution of one part of speech for another; for instance, an adverb for a noun or a noun for an adverb
...from the site wwh posted.
We've written of verbing nouns, and the site provides the rhetorical term for the act:
anthimeria
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#85845
11/08/2002 1:50 AM
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Anthimeria...anthimeria--I like it! AND--for this word, Atomica sources (!) tsuwm !
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#85846
11/08/2002 1:08 PM
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We're so proud of our tsuwm, aren't we, Jackie!
And we anthimerialy uwse him often, don't we? Or little parts of him. Astsuwming, of course, that people actuwally get our huwmouwr?
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#85847
11/08/2002 1:52 PM
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Hey--paws off, sister! If'n anybody's gonna uwse him, it's gonna be me! 
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#85848
11/08/2002 3:17 PM
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Get in the line, you two. No jumping the queue.
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#85849
11/08/2002 6:08 PM
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#85850
11/09/2002 2:21 AM
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Cat fight!!!
Hey, Michael! Get in here! You gotta see this!!!
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#85851
11/09/2002 2:35 AM
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"Reputation, reputation, reputation! O! I have lost my reputation.---Othello, 2.3.264"
epizeuxis
...'nother rhetorical term (and quote) from wwh's site.
Seemed timely, somehow, all this, this, this talk of cat fights.
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#85852
11/09/2002 3:10 AM
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The other day I couldn't get into byu edu forest of rhetoric. Now I can.Puzzled but grateful
to be able to use it again. I simply cannot remember those terms from one day to the next.
But, don't they sound great?
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#85853
11/09/2002 3:12 AM
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No jumping the queue. [Elbowing madly e] Hah--now I'm in front! Now, the moment he comes through that door...
Epizeuxis? I don't do no epizeuxis! I don't do no epizeuxis! I don't do no epizeuxis! Hi, Alex!
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#85854
11/09/2002 3:15 AM
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that's it! that's it!! I'm changing my handle; from now on I'm gonna be tora...
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#85855
11/09/2002 3:22 AM
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from now on I'm gonna be tora...
Are you sure, my dear?
EDIT--I decided to remove the site link--it's a bit bawdy, considering that there are some youngsters here.
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#85856
11/09/2002 3:23 AM
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Tora,tora, tora You going to hit Pearl Harbor again?
Tora, . . . before the time of Malachi, is
generally used of the revelations of God's will
made through the prophets. -
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#85857
11/09/2002 10:57 AM
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How is epizeuxis pronounced?
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#85858
11/09/2002 11:01 AM
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Just like it looks: e-pi-zook'-sis.
© 1996-2002, Gideon O. Burton, Brigham Young University
Please cite "Silva Rhetoricae" (rhetoric.byu.edu)
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#85859
11/09/2002 11:19 AM
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In reply to:
Just like it looks: e-pi-zook'-sis.
...oh, shure, Jacks. I'd immediately think to replace that x with a k, not. The s, yes.
But thanks anyway.
Edit: P.S. Come to think of it, the k does make sense. Taxes = Tackses ... Gotcha!
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#85860
11/09/2002 2:31 PM
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Just like it looks: e-pi-zook'-sis.
Looks like e-pi-zoik'-sis to me.
tora??
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#85861
11/09/2002 2:41 PM
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Hey, Wordwind, look at the site I found with dozens and dozens of obscure poetry definitions!! http://www.schoolofpoetry.org/My disctionary gives words wtih "zeu- " either zy long o, or just long o.
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#85862
11/09/2002 2:47 PM
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Wow! and thanks, wwh!
I've earmarked the site and will return to it later today.
An aside, thinking about poor tsuwm: It would be fun to learn rhetorical terms based on tsuwming, you know? He's just got that darling sense of the absurd.
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#85863
11/09/2002 3:26 PM
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Ye have another sort of repetition, when.. ye iterate one word without any intermission, as thus—It was Maryne, Maryne, that wrought mine woe.. The Greekes call him, Epizeuxis, the Latins Subiunctio. - 1589, Puttenham
(at least he didn't say *reiterate)
I really dislike the OED pronunciation guide; to wit:
(epI"zju:ksIs) : with the 'e' an epsilon and the middle vowel looking sort of like th:s.
here's a more reasonable *guess (this word really hasn't been used all that much) from Norman Schur:
ep ih ZOOHK sis
the word actually means, from its roots, to join upon.
Keeping time, time, time,
In a sort of Runic rhyme,
To the tintinnabulation that so musically wells
From the bells, bells, bells, bells,
Bells, bells, bells.
-Edgar Allan Poe
Hear, hear!
-tora³
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#85864
11/09/2002 9:18 PM
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Finally! I found what I was looking for last night when I stumbled across that site that definitely put our tsuwm in a, um, different light.
"The attack on Pearl Harbor that plunged the United States and Japan into war is retold. The title comes from the code phrase the Japanese flight leader used to indicate the attack was on ("tora" means "tiger"). From: http://www.allwatchers.com/Topics/Info_4328.asp So, tsuwm, should we be expecting you to roar, at some point? [giggle]
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#85865
11/09/2002 11:49 PM
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tsuwm's a tiger? Well, that's absolutely even more darling!
I think we'll have fun with this neuw side of tsuwm!
In fact, when you look carefully at the word tsuwm, you can make out his stripes in the "w" and the "m"...leastways I can see 'em!
And, friend in flight, you think elephants are interesting!
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#85866
11/10/2002 11:46 AM
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you can make out his stripes
u2
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#85867
11/10/2002 3:21 PM
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>you can make out his stripes...
you guys have gone bananas and should be put behind bars.
-tony
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#85868
11/10/2002 5:25 PM
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Ohhh, To-nee, I go ape over you...
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#85869
12/03/2002 11:36 PM
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This rhetoric site is fun.
I've pulled up the page of repetition to take a look at other forms of repetition, and have a question to pose:
Symploce is defined as "repetition of both beginnings and endings."
The example given is:
"Most true that I must fair Fidessa love,/ Most true that fair Fidessa cannot love./ Most true that I do feel the pains of love,/ Most true that I am captive unto love.---Fidessa, 62"
Well, that seems curious. The Beginnning and the Ending are both contained in the Beginning of the clauses.
So my question is:
Is symploce a repetitive device whereby one repeats a beginning word and and ending word contained within a single phrase without dividing the two with changing text?
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#85870
12/03/2002 11:48 PM
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I think the ending word is "love"?
formerly known as etaoin...
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#85871
12/03/2002 11:53 PM
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Omigosh, et, I completely missed that!!! Thanks very much. I feel like an idiot.
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#85872
12/04/2002 12:02 AM
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nah, don't feel like an idiot. I know you're not, based on the other things you've posted.  I wonder if there are different levels of symploce, depending on how many words you repeat at both ends...
formerly known as etaoin...
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#85873
12/04/2002 12:45 AM
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I went looking for more examples of symploce. I found another rather good rhetoric site, but the example of symploce was not impressive. When I was a child, I spoke as a child, etc from Corinthians. http://www.ualberta.ca/~gepp/figures.html
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#85874
12/05/2002 7:09 PM
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Pooh-Bah
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I think you can buy symploce by the pound in the market on Saturday mornings ... something of a rough fish, I believe. - Pfranz
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#85875
12/05/2002 8:02 PM
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Dear Pfranz:Not a fish, more like a cockroach:
. Atl. Fish Sci. 12:15-26. ... Roth, LM 1982. Ovoviviparity in the
Blattellid cockroach Symploce-bimaculata (Dictyoptera: Blattaria, Blattellidae). Roth, LM 1983. ...
http://www.bio.umass.edu/biology/kunkel/roachbib.html
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#85876
12/05/2002 8:06 PM
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Bill, you're not taking poetic license here, are you?
- Pfranz
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#85877
12/05/2002 8:17 PM
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Dear Pfranz: my poetic license was revoked many years ago, for mangling metaphors.
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#85878
12/05/2002 8:45 PM
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Yes Bill, I knew you were subject to AMA rulings. The American Metaphorical Association takes its judicial process v-e-e-r-r-r-r-y seriously. I bet the review committee did you up like a dog's dinner!
- Pfranz
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#85879
12/05/2002 9:01 PM
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The exact charge was malignant misprision of metempsychosis.
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#85880
12/05/2002 9:29 PM
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Zactly! When do you get out?
- Pfranz
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