#84896
10/27/2002 9:46 AM
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The Current Challenge (given October 20, 2002):
Think of a familiar 9-letter word, in which the first letter immediately follows the 9th in the alphabet. The 2nd letter immediately follows the 8th in the alphabet. The 3rd immediately follows the 7th, and the 4th immediately follows the 6th. For example: SPECTATOR (S follows R, and P follows O). Unfortunately, the pattern breaks down with the remaining letters. Hint: The word is used most often in the TV and film industry. What word is it? http://www.npr.org/programs/wesun/puzzle/ I haven't been able to figure out the NPR puzzle, and I guess it will be revealed today, but I do have two 7 letter words in which the 1st letter immediately follows the 7th, the 2nd immediately follows the 6th, and the 3rd immediately follows the 5th. One of my two words is mentioned in a nursery rhyme. Can you name my two words, or other examples?
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#84897
10/28/2002 2:18 AM
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Well, Bets, I must not be understanding your puzzle correctly. (I couldn't access the site.) From what I get, the word begins with the 10th letter of the alphabet, and is followed by the 9th, 8th, and 7th in order. This produces Jihg---, and I do not know any words that start with that.
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#84898
10/28/2002 3:21 AM
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In reply to:
Think of a familiar 9-letter word, in which the first letter immediately follows the 9th in the alphabet. The 2nd letter immediately follows the 8th in the alphabet. The 3rd immediately follows the 7th, and the 4th immediately follows the 6th. For example: SPECTATOR (S follows R, and P follows O). Unfortunately, the pattern breaks down with the remaining letters. Hint: The word is used most often in the TV and film industry. What word is it?
I think it would be better to rephrase the puzzle to avoid ambiguity:
... the first letter in the word immediately follows the word's last letter alphabetically. The 2nd letter in the word immediately follows the 8th letter alphabetically. The 3rd immediately follows the 7th, and the 4th immediately follows the 6th. Hint: The word is used most often in the TV and film industry. What word is it?
And my answer is.. I have no idea.
BTW: Greetings from Los Angeles.
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#84899
10/28/2002 11:02 AM
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This produces Jihg
Or you could look at the example:
SPECTATOR (S follows R, and P follows O)
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#84900
10/28/2002 2:46 PM
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The link above should now work, and the answer to their puzzle is one click away from there (at least as of now).
I also now know a 6 letter word that follows the same pattern. (i.e. the 1st letter of the word follows the 6th letter of the word alphabetically, the 2nd follows the 5th, and the 3rd follows the 4th)
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#84901
10/29/2002 1:57 AM
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Well, actually, it's two clicks away, but who's counting?
(picking nits with the best of 'em)
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10/29/2002 7:33 AM
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One click away from "THERE" means that it is one click away AFTER you click the link noted above. Of course, you'd have to click on Click here for the answer! in order to get there in just one more click.
However, I included the caveat, "for now," because in a week there may be a new puzzle's answer on that same page.
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10/30/2002 2:07 AM
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "The word EFFERVESCENCE is unusual because E's are spaced out in it. It has 13 letters, and E's appear in positions
1-4-7-13.
Now, think a familiar two-word phrase in 15 letters, in which the letter R appears in positions 1-4-8-12-15. These are the only R's that appear in them.
What word is it?"
- NPR Word Quiz of this Week. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Gee Bankroll, you'd think that a quiz about words would be consistent with their numbering instruction now wouldn't you? But hey, it's only the effete happy cats at the NPR, give 'em a break.  Oh yeah, the answer is Refrigerator Car
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10/30/2002 10:42 AM
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OK, Mr. Refrigerator Car, did you send that answer in so we all can hear you flabbergasted up to your ear bones next Sunday in the on air quiz?
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#84905
10/30/2002 2:56 PM
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No I didn't Mr. Friend-Of-Federal-Funding. I am scheduled to appear on the Rush Limbaugh television show that day, besides the NPR folk will probably want a more environmentally friendly answer like the small rearoperator cars of the of the late sixties that ran on the exhaust fumes of the big gas-guzzling car just ahead.
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10/30/2002 3:26 PM
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They do accept alternate answers, Mr. I Don't Mind Chopping Down The Walls To Burn In The Wood Stove, if you can support them with references.
And Mr. Lush Bimbaugh and Liane Hansen/Will Shortz probably tape at a different times. No reason you can't do both.
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10/30/2002 7:34 PM
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OK, OK, Mr. I-Need-A-Laugh-At-Milum's-Expence, I'll send an alternate answer to the promoters of alternate lifestyles on National Party Radio and support it with refrences. Which do you like best? RET ROCA R STA RTE R - the guy with the gun at an antique car race.or... ROA RING REFO RME R - a person who overreacts with misguided zeal to a slight of society by assuming paternal control of those slighted.
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10/30/2002 7:50 PM
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OK, Mr. I'd Rather Spend Money On Worthless Products Supporting Radio I'd Never Listen To In A Thousand Years, but I prefer RefRied RepoRteR, Someone who repeats someone else's lies rather than coming up with his own.
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10/30/2002 10:13 PM
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Good catch. I didn't notice the inaccuracy in their numbering instruction(s).
Nice answers... I am less thrilled by puzzles that have a multitude of possible answers, preferring puzzles with unique or at least limited answers (crossword puzzles come to mind). A puzzle with a myriad of answers can make for good posting material, but somehow seems inelegant.
Refrigerator Air (5190 google hits)
Refrigerator War (9 google hits....similar to the cola war)
How about RewRite RepoRteR? It garners 29 hits on a Google search. Of course it pales in comparison to the 3990 for "refrigerator car"
I'm sure we could come up with some definitions for such beauties as RefRain RecoRdeR and RegRet pReseRveR also...
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#84910
10/30/2002 10:28 PM
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... RefRied RepoRteR, Someone who repeats someone else's lies rather than coming up with his own. ~ faldageVery good Mr. Faldage, very good. But, you know, if you weren't caught up in the blinding moment of inspiration I bet you would have realized that you came dangerously close to name calling. I know better. You obviously know that I only listen to NPR and haven't listened to Rush in four or five years. I drink my morning coffee from a NPR mug, especially when I feel a bit lofty. I gave $50.00 to public radio this past spring. I guess you could say that I have bought my right to criticize the people who bring us Beethoven, Click and Clack, and Garrison Keillor. And I will... By the nature of the all-inclusiveness of their politically correct assembly of unrefried reporters they have rendered the information that they broadcast skewed toward social agendas rather than the transfer of proper semantic content. This, my friend, is the lie inadvertent, the lie that insults the minds of free thinking men. But then again, few listen, so its not a real big deal.
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11/06/2002 4:42 PM
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Name a variety of tree. Rearrange the letters, and you'll name the kind of tree it is plus something this tree produces. What tree is it?
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11/06/2002 5:00 PM
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...and a "NO" VOTE is a VETO, NO?
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#84913
11/07/2002 10:35 PM
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Times up! The variety of the tree is bord lames which is french for "edge blades" for the serrated leaves of elm trees and the american elms (Ulmus americana L.) are commonly called " broad elms" and the products of these stately tree are, of course, elm boards which are perfect for making furniture.
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11/07/2002 10:50 PM
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elm makes boards? elm is a good wood for furnature?
really? on which planet? the american elm, is a beautiful tree, with its V shape, but the grain of the elm is twisted and its almost impossible to cut, and harder still to plane or sand smooth.. (and no one can split it!, it just can't be done!) Elms remained after all the woods were cut down, since there was no reason to cut them.. they didn't make good firewood or furniture, or anything.. but they gave a nice soft, dappled shade, and they sure looked pretty...
it works as a words.. broad can become board... but elm boards are available the same place that stocks hen's teeth!
(even elm that have been killed off by dutch elm disease aren't cut down.. since they are even hard to cut with a chain saw- says a woman who once spent a fortune getting a elm that was cracking her house foundation cut down.)
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11/07/2002 11:09 PM
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11/07/2002 11:14 PM
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 ...uh...I might have fudged a little... But before the Dutch Elm Blight the great elms were "admirably suited for the manufacture of cooperage, kitchenette furniture, flooring, baskets, vehicle parts, and woodenware." according to Ellwood S. and J. George Harrar in their book " Guide To Southern Trees". So don't you all go thinking I made up that french part too... 
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11/07/2002 11:14 PM
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"The wood of American elm is strong, split resistant and durable, and has been used for furniture, paneling, boat construction and crates. The fruits are important wildlife food, especially favored by ruffed grouse, quail and partridge." http://floridata.com/ref/u/ulmu_ame.cfmNumerous sites on Google about the use of elm boards in furniture making. It's an NPR quiz, so, hey, give 'em some leverage, even with Dutch Elm Disease being problematical. By the way, if anyone's ever in Richmond, do check out the Dooley Estate, free to the public, with some of the most splendiferous, living examples of American elms anybody has ever set eyes on. Edit:In fact, close to a thousand hits of the use of Almus americana in furniture making on Google. Here's another: http://newton.dep.anl.gov/natbltn/200-299/nb279.htm
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#84918
11/07/2002 11:48 PM
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Ok I confess... Will and Liane from NPR called and said that I was a crook and that the real answer is... the group of trees know as the conifers. And that a particular species of conifer are called cone firs. And the products of cone firs are fir cones. Sometimes life can be cruel when life is so simple. 
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#84919
11/08/2002 1:14 PM
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Rearrange the letters, and you'll name the kind of tree it is plus something this tree produces.
Boy, did I misunderstand the question. I thought you only had to rearrange the letters once to get the two answers.
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11/08/2002 1:56 PM
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rearrange the letters once to get the two answers.
That's what I thought. Like conifer gives us fir and cone. Cept that's backwards.
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11/09/2002 5:57 PM
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As an aside, what is the deal with public/ community media ( television and radio especially) in the US? How is it funded? Who watches it? We are required by law in Britain to own a television licence which funds the BBC stations, and the BBC has the largest audience share ( but then with only five channels the competition is not exactly beating down the door)on both tv and radio, there are no commercials on BBC channels. I get the impression that the commercial stations rule the roost over there, will someone enlighten me?
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#84922
11/09/2002 7:09 PM
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Whatever anyone tells ya about it now... in 12 years (or so) "Public (aka broadcast) TV, as we know it, will no longer be so.
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11/09/2002 9:28 PM
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We are required by law in Britain to own a television licence which funds the BBC stations,
Wha-at??? Are you serious? What if you don't even OWN a television? Commercial-free does sound good, though.
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11/09/2002 10:29 PM
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Public radio/television is funded by, in something vaguely resembling order of importance, listener-sponsors, corporate sponsorship and government funding.
The listener-sponsor funding comes from individual donations that are solicited in thrice yearly pledge drives during which they spend about twenty minutes out of every hour, usually in two ten minute segments on the hour and half hour. These drives generally last about a week to ten days.
The corporate sponsorship results in brief announcements during station breaks for the local sponsorships and during the intro or outro to a show for nation-wide sponsorships. These announcements sometimes verge on commercials; the information given can be more than a mere announcement of the name of the sponsor.
Government funding, as I understand it, is dependent on the amount raised from listener-sponsors. This funding has been decreasing in the past few years because of trickle-down tax cuts.
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11/09/2002 11:07 PM
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>"Public (aka broadcast) TV, as we know it, will no longer be so.
what musick is on about here, I think, is that while commercial stations once "ruled the roost", cable outlets have eroded their shares near to the vanishing point. 12 years could be optimistic. ("broadcast", or over-the-air stations include commercial + public)
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11/10/2002 11:13 AM
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Anyone with a television wired to a plug in their home has to have a tv license, even if it is not in use. Inspectors can levy 1000 pound fines for non compliance and repeated infractions can end you up in prison. http://www.tv-l.co.uk/tvlic/index_frameset.html
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11/10/2002 1:53 PM
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Anyone with a television wired to a plug in their home has to have a tv license, even if it is not in use. Inspectors can levy 1000 pound fines for non compliance and repeated infractions can end you up in prison. ~ DodyskinIf you are 74 or over you will be eligible for either a free Over 75 TV Licence or a Short Term Licence (or until you pass away, whichever comes first). It is important to remember that you still need a licence. Your free licence will not be issued automatically, you do have to apply for it. Of course if you are blind you merely need to fill out a series of forms and you can watch TV free forever upon approval of your submitted application.
And if you are blind and over 74, well...hey, we all should be so lucky . ~ Information URL site (slightly modified)Now that, my distant friends, is a scary law. I'd bet the lot of your Tower Jewels that this crass affront to free information flow everywhere was enacted while your paternalistic labour boys were in power. Right? Good Lord I hope so...
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11/10/2002 5:42 PM
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>'d bet the lot of your Tower Jewels that this crass affront to free information flow everywhere was enacted while your paternalistic labour boys were in power. Right?
In the catchy words of Charlie Daniels, "I'll take that bet and you're gonna regret because" the Labour Party first came to power not less than 2 years after the BBC licence fee was established.
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11/10/2002 6:08 PM
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So, how's milum gonna get the Tower Jewels for you?
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11/10/2002 6:15 PM
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>So, how's milum gonna get the Tower Jewels for you?
I don't know, but if he values his personal integrity, I expect him to keep his word. I would accept the cash equivalent, though, since I'm a reasonable man.
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11/10/2002 11:30 PM
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So, how's milum gonna get the Tower Jewels for you?
I don't know, but if he values his personal integrity,
I expect him to keep his word.************************************************** _________________BILL OF SALE_____________________ In consideration of the forgivement of all war debts
incured by Great Britian in the just and noble war
against the Huns
I do hereby award Milo Washington on behalf of the American people
the Crown Jewels with the understanding that
they remain in the Tower of London for safekeeping.
___________________Signed__Lord George Dinwiddle HMJP
acting on behalf of King George the Sixth and the British Empire.
___________His Seal -> >o< on this date July 4, 1946.***********************************************************************************************
________________NOTE OF TRANSFER_______________ I, Milo Washington, being of sound mind do hereby
transfer ownership of the Crown Jewels to sjm to satisfy
a stupid bet I made when I was drunk. The Crown Jewels
are priceless. The ownership taxes imposed by a socialist
society are three times priceless.
No. I will not take them back.____________________________________November 12, 2002 *********************************************** - -
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11/10/2002 11:52 PM
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Thanks, Milum. I didn't want to weaken my bargaining position, but I was actually prepared to trade them for this deed to the Brooklyn Bridge I bought aeons ago.
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11/11/2002 7:58 PM
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Well, just so long as we aren't talking about the family jewels.
TEd
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11/11/2002 8:06 PM
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Well, just so long as we aren't talking about the family jewels.
What is it with you guys!?
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11/11/2002 8:29 PM
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ASp....what is it with these guys? And you the very one what got 'em talkin' 'bout baroque pianists?
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