#82513
10/01/2002 7:59 PM
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Well, well, well. Here's the take of my favorite contemporary linguist, Geoff Nunberg, on the nuclear/nucular issue: http://www-csli.stanford.edu/~nunberg/nucular.html
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#82514
10/01/2002 10:01 PM
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What I wanna know is how come nobody complains when Curley from the Three Stooges goes "Nyuk!~nyuk!~nyuk!" instead of "Nuke~nuke~nuke"! Seriously.  So you wanted to re-open this can of worms, did'ja AnnaS? 
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#82515
10/01/2002 10:41 PM
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In reply to:
So you wanted to re-open this can of worms, did'ja AnnaS?
...She's baiting Faldage.
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#82516
10/01/2002 10:49 PM
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Uh-huh
WW, you've got great intuition. But I think we're gonna find Nunberg and Faldage agree, ultimately...
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#82517
10/01/2002 11:30 PM
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Personally, I thought the article's conclusion was obvious. I had long ago decided it was the "faux-bubba" syndrome.
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#82518
10/01/2002 11:59 PM
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Pardon, may I interrupt this sunday-go-to-meeting, love-don't-covet-your-neighbor and bring-a-covered-dish party, and point out that Mr. Geoff Nunberg rambled and speculated and then summed up not a single swinging coherent thing. Don't get me wrong I was amused by ole Nunberg's writings, but I kept wanting to fashion him an axe so he could make himself a point.
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#82519
10/07/2002 11:17 PM
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AAAHHHHHH!!! He's just said it about 25 times!!
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#82520
10/07/2002 11:35 PM
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So what's the big deal about nucular? How come y'all ain' puling and micturating about hunnerd or niney or chillern or terrism? How come?
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#82521
10/08/2002 12:10 AM
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In reply to:
How come y'all ain' puling and micturating about hunnerd or niney or chillern or terrism? How come?
We're oversensitized to nukyoulur.
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#82522
10/08/2002 1:13 AM
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The Leader of the Free World has spoken. It wasn't a great speech but it was a courageous speech. It was a momentous speech that will be judged pivotal in the dire and consequential events that are sure to come.
President Bush seemed nervous. But I don't think it was Wordwind's letter admonishing him for his his pronunciation of the word "nuclear" that caused his halting slurred delivery. It was the very real knowledge that his words were the reality, and the fate of the entire world rests upon the courageous acceptance by all free men of that very same reality. God help us all.
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#82523
10/08/2002 1:22 AM
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God help us all.
Here, here. [sitting in the shadow of the Salem Nuclear Power Plant Complex (3 reactors, the largest in the country with the statistically highest projected casualties in the event of attack or accident), which makes it one of the #1 targets any stateside henchmen are waiting the "go" on as soon as we hit Iraq-e] (sigh)
A meltdown is a meltdown...any way you say it...nucular or nuclear.
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#82524
10/08/2002 1:38 AM
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>A meltdown is a meltdown...any way you say it...nucular or nuclear.
Indeed. Back to words, though, I thought the most interesting comment was about the use of nuclear in phrases like "nuclear medicine" and "nuclear family". If Dubya, or anyone else who says "nucular", actually pronounces the word correctly in those other contexts, that would indicate a phoney, calculated dumbing-down of their speech, for whatever reason. Has anybody heard your esteemed cinc using the phrase "nuclear family" or "nuclear medicine" to report on consistency of mispronunciation (or lack thereof?)
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#82525
10/08/2002 2:44 AM
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Whitman. Sjm. There is a part of you both that transcends yourselves and your personal concerns. Within each of you is an awareness that life means much more than mere words and silly ideas of personal safety. To be alive is to be on a journey. A journey directed toward a goal that will bring about the realization of the human condition. Ye shall know the truth and it will set you free.
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#82526
10/08/2002 3:07 AM
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In the extremely unlikely event that I ever wish to know your opinion about anything I will ask for it. Until then, kindly have the courtesy to refrain from unsolicited expositions on what may or may not be within me.
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#82527
10/08/2002 3:13 AM
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10/08/2002 3:37 AM
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#82529
10/08/2002 3:33 PM
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and silly ideas of personal safety
I don't want to reopen this discussion, but I have to point out that I was thinking more in terms of the 100,000-200,000 other innocent people who are liable to die in the event of such a catastrophe as an indicator of the Pandora's Box of horror and loss of innocent life which may be opened the world over if this transpires...my own life and safety in the context of such losses is, of course, from my perspective, insignificant.
War is not a good thing...War is never a good thing, no matter how exhalted the ideals or reasons, or how pressing the necessity to remove tyrants or murderous dictators.
But don't take it from me...let's hear from somebody who knows something about war first-hand:
It was an unforgettable display of valor amid the worst of war. During the Battle of Fredericksburg on December 13, 1862, Northern troops from the Army of the Potomac under General Ambrose E. Burnside repeatedly assaulted impregnable Southern positions on Marye’s Heights. Battle-seasoned troops from General Robert E. Lee’s Army of Northern Virginia were defending a heavily-fortified line behind a stone wall. Wave after wave of Federal troops charged up the hill - and were slaughtered. Casualties were horrific. Watching so many brave men in blue hurl themselves into what was almost certain death, General Lee was moved to comment:
“It is well that war is so horrible, lest we should grow too fond of it.”
(some citations quote terrible instead of horrible...take your pick)
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#82530
10/09/2002 2:10 PM
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We're oversensitized to nukyoulur
Nobuddy sez chillern... we call 'em "shorties" down here.
I've herd hunnerd and ninedee differnt werds peoples been complaining about 'n I don't see nothin special 'bout dat one.
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