#82418
10/01/2002 7:21 PM
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Sneeze-words! Depictions of the sound of sneezing: English: Ah-choo!/Ker-choo! Chinese: Han-chee! Hebrew: Itush! Czech: Kychnut! (my favorite) Indonesian: Wa-hing! French: A-tchouin! Russian: Ap-chi! Any more?! (I've no idea WHY I bought this up...  )
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#82419
10/01/2002 8:22 PM
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And along another dimension: do you sneeze in bright lights?
Really. I'm serious. There was even correspondence on the subject in the New England Journal of Medicine some years ago, believe it or not, started by a medical resident whose newborn daughter did, as indeed did he. It seems to be hereditary. He asked several of his contemporaries and got a very bipolar distribution of replies: either "Are you crazy?" or "Of course, doesn't everybody?"
I'd like to take an informal poll - how do AWADers stack up?
PS I do, my sister does, my mother did, my father did, only two of my three kids do. My mother always used to say it was a response to "actinic rays."
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#82420
10/01/2002 8:31 PM
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Of course, doesn't everybody?  
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#82421
10/01/2002 8:40 PM
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wofa...y
bo/a...y
sjm...............n
oT................n (maybe it should be 1/2?)
FB................n
milum............n
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slithy..y
dxb.....y
shona............n
Boron............n
TEdR....y
MG................n
(MG's MD yes but he's disqualified)
byb...............n
Sp'ye.............n
....Y=5........N=10
Photic sneezing present in 5/13 = 33 % of AWADers so far
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#82422
10/01/2002 8:49 PM
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>Do you sneeze in bright lights?
Taking this to mean, "do bright lights make you sneeze?", the answer is no. I have never heard of this phenomenon before, knowing no one so afflicted.
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#82423
10/01/2002 9:04 PM
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Do i sneeze in bright lights? no...
but, when i have the feeling i am about to sneeze, and i am almost there but not quite... then looking directly at a bright light will bring the sneeze on!
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#82424
10/01/2002 9:36 PM
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I have the opposite phenomenon. If I feel a sneeze coming on, I look into a dark corner to force it out. Bright lights actually *suppress* the sneeze reflex in me.
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#82425
10/01/2002 10:33 PM
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No. I only sneeze at the idea that people sneeze in bright lights. What amazes me is that some people can modify the natural sound of their sneezes to affect the politically and phonically correct sound, "Ah-Choo!", I wonder, do they do this in other languages?
Here are some percentages I found in a URL.
Photic sneeze reflex occurs in something like one-sixth to one-quarter of the population. It occurs more often in Caucasians than Afro-Americans or Orientals.
According to a Johns Hopkins medic named Stephen Peroutka, the trait is passed along genetically, with a 50 percent chance of inheritance.
Researchers in Sweden found that out of 460 subjects, 24 percent sneezed in bright light, and 40 percent had at least one sneezing parent.
Sixty-four percent of children with one sneezing parent were themselves sneezers, but two nonsneezers never produced a sneezer. (Isn't it amazing how I can make these things so easy to understand?)
Nobody's exactly sure what causes photic sneeze reflex. I see here in one of the journals we have an impressive discussion of the role of the trigeminal nerve nucleus.
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#82426
10/01/2002 10:38 PM
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I don't sneeze in bright lights and never heard of this phenomenon till tonight.
However, I do get the hiccups if there is too much pepper in hot soup.
And I suppress my sneezes. My dear departed Grandma Etta said I sounded like a kitten sneezing in bright lights.
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#82427
10/02/2002 12:04 AM
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That's a great term: photic sneeze reflex. Now I know the name of that condition I first experienced when, as a small kid, I spent most Saturday afternoons at the local movie theatre, emerging into the bright sunlight with fits of sneezing.
And what about those Indonesians? Wa-hing? They ain't sneezin'; they's spittin'.
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#82428
10/02/2002 9:03 AM
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Yup. I sneeze in bright lights.
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#82429
10/02/2002 10:27 AM
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when i have the feeling i am about to sneeze, and i am almost there but not quite... then looking directly at a bright light will bring the sneeze on!
Me too. Bright lights won't make me sneeze unless there's a "tickle" already there.
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#82430
10/02/2002 12:34 PM
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ditto for me - especially if I look into bright sunlight
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10/02/2002 1:25 PM
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This has always been a puzzle to me. I, like many people I know, have a tendency to sneeze when going from the dark into bright sunlight. I think it's a pretty widespread response, which implies there is a genetic advantage.
I've pondered this, and wonder if it's because a sneeze peps up your olfactory senses, so that our ancestors, when going from the forest onto the plains, would be better able to smell trouble.
On the other hand, a sneeze would alert predators of your presence, which would in my view tend to be a sorta bad thing. Unless, of course, the sneeze tends to startle the predators so they jump and run.
This response is not limited to humans, by the way. Many dogs do it. The dachsunds my parents owned were particularly susceptible.
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#82432
10/02/2002 1:36 PM
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genetic advantageHmmm. I wonder if there's a connection to a yawn being kicked off in some people by going from a muggy indoors to a fresh and bracing outdoors? A yawn brings on a forced input of air, so is actually waking you up. At least that's my excuse.
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#82433
10/03/2002 2:01 AM
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jus' flingin' in my two cents' worth:
I don't sneeze in bright lights (well, sometimes I do, but not because of the bright lights! ie, not because I've moved from somewhere dark to somewhere light). The first I heard of this phenomenon, someone I knew told me her doctor had said something to her about, "You know how you sneeze when you first go outside on a sunny day?..." I said, "You do?" and I think she was surprised by this as well - we fell into the "are you crazy?" school and he was obviously one of the "doesn't everybody?" school.
Interesting how an individual's view of what is universally true/real often develops from individual experience without reference to what is true/real for others....
If you can't see the bright side, polish the dull side.
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10/03/2002 3:14 AM
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In reply to:
ditto for me - especially if I look into bright sunlight
Me too.
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#82435
10/03/2002 10:13 AM
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I remember once reading that it was counted a big thing that Davy Crockett (or was it his father) could look straight at the sun and not sneeze. I seem to remember thinking, "how quaint".
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#82436
10/03/2002 11:19 AM
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In reply to:
I remember once reading that it was counted a big thing that Davy Crockett (or was it his father) could
look straight at the sun and not sneeze.
...Well, bully for either of them. Pretty stupid thing to do. Leastways if you want to soundly screw up your vision.
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#82437
10/03/2002 11:28 AM
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if you want to soundly screw up your vision.
I'd say it was a right smart thang to do if you wanted to soundly screw up your vision.
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#82438
10/03/2002 11:33 AM
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In reply to:
I'd say it was a right smart thang to do if you wanted to soundly screw up your vision.
Whuh? I'm missing a link here, Faldage, in your logic...
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#82439
10/03/2002 12:42 PM
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no missing links here -- Faldage is just being a literalist, is all
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10/03/2002 12:53 PM
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missing a link
Geesh! Do I gots ta splain you everthang?
You said that it was a stupid thing to do if you wanted to soundly screw up your vision. I merely pointed out that it was a smart thing to do if you wanted to screw up your vision. It's only stupid if you *don't want to screw up your vision. Why you would want to soundly screw up your vision is beyond me, but far be it from me to dictate your desires.
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#82441
10/03/2002 1:10 PM
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In reply to:
Geesh! Do I gots ta splain you everthang?
Apparently, yes.
And now I see your point. I should have written:
"It's a stupid thing to do, and it will screw up your vision."
Generally, we should not stare into the sun, especially one, I would imagine, that was bright enough to cause sneezing. The morning sun today rising into a veil of foggy October mist was red and presented not much harm to look at, but without that veil and being, instead, higher overhead in the sky (and I suppose bright enough to cause sneezes), the sun would burn the retina.
Belaboring a point,
WW
P.S. Thanks, Faldage
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#82442
10/03/2002 1:20 PM
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Thanks, Faldage
Happy to do it for ya, my dear Dub Dub'.
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#82443
10/03/2002 1:51 PM
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Faldage is just being a literalist... aka nitpicker.
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10/03/2002 1:56 PM
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#82445
10/03/2002 6:51 PM
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No sneezing at the sun here. I've heard of the phenomenon, but have not witnessed it.
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#82446
10/03/2002 8:41 PM
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Primitive women, before man invented the fire, slept on the dusty hard ground, either in shallow caves or rock shelters, or beneath the open sky. They slept, outside of the time they were busy servicing the male, from sundown to sun up. They woke up to the bright rays of the morning sun and sneezed to expell the dust and attendant germs that they had breathed in during the night. Sneezing on rainy days wasn't as important because the high humidity keep the dust down. But now I wonder...why is sundown one word and sun up two? 
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#82447
10/03/2002 9:08 PM
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why is sundown one word and sun up two?
Is it? I've seen "sunup" in print, in this context. (Makes a great Jotto word, come to think of it!)
Title is from G&S, Iolanthe, The Nightmare Song, line n-1
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10/03/2002 9:36 PM
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Re:They slept, outside of the time they were busy servicing the male, from sundown to sun up.
Milo world must be an interesting place...
in most of the stuff i have read about what is left of hunter/gather societies, woman are responsible for providing 70 to 80% of the calories consumed by the group... the hunter's meat add a nice chunk of fat and consentrated protein, but day in day out, its the men that lie arround sleeping, and the women that are tending the fires and doing all the work..
still, if that how you see the world, perhaps you are interested in a companion? i wouldn't mind the job of sleeping (and sneezing in the morning).
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10/08/2002 3:58 PM
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sundown....sunupI feel a transpondialism coming on. Is there a difference in meaning between: sundown and sunsetand sunup and sunrise ?
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10/08/2002 4:23 PM
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for me, sundown and sun( )up refer only to the time, whereas sunset and sunrise refer to the phenomena or the time
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#82451
10/08/2002 5:19 PM
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I think of "sunrise" as being either the general time when the sun is rising (aka dawn), and the specific moment when the sun is visible at the horizon ("sunrise will be at 6:14 AM according to the almanac"). Same for sunset and dusk.
Sundowning is an interesting word. It describes the onset of confusion or dementia associated with the fall of night. It is often seen in older patients in the hospital who are perfectly fine all day but at night become confused or agitated.
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#82452
10/08/2002 11:15 PM
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Red sails in the suuuunn sseeet
way out on the seaSo right you really are, Boronia, romantic and not concerned with the tyranny of time. Now lets try spelling,... type " sun up". Now enter it into Anu's hand cranked spell check machine called by some folk "Erotica". See. that spelling is acceptable. Now enter " sunup". Wow! The Red letters literally scream your ineptness and you cower in wrongness and in shame. But, big folk, I have asked a former Grand Dragon Maven of the former Klu, (triple K), Klux Klan, this question - What is now the acceptable usage in the modern south of the word "sunup"?. and she, the ageing Lily Mae Caldwell of the venerable Birmingham News, said... "Do not use " sunup". That is easily confused with "shutup". We in the south are mindful of such inarticulations." Now, Kiddo's, anybody want to confront Lily Mae?
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#82453
10/09/2002 1:17 PM
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She would also say you shouldn't have a Klu. It's Ku Klix Klan.
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10/09/2002 1:25 PM
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It's Ku Klix Klan.
An important lesson in nitpickery, young Master Remington; when picking another's nits be sure not to introduce one of your own.
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10/09/2002 1:53 PM
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[url]http://wordsmith.org/board/showthreaded.pl?Cat=&Board=miscellany&Number=83213
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#82456
10/14/2002 12:27 AM
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Q.: Is it possible to sneeze with your eyes open? Why or why not?
- Jessica
A.: Yes, but not without the aid of some object, like a finger. A sneeze is a complex bodily reflex, and the nerves in your eyes are attached to the same ones as the rest of your face. So when you sneeze, an impulse is also sent to your eyes causing them to shut.
Q and A from "Stump Me".
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10/14/2002 5:18 AM
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It's Ku Klix Klan.
Ah, yes, that'd be the well-known Mississippi Tupperware Chapter. They wear plastic bedsheets with snap-on hoods.
The idiot also known as Capfka ...
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