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I can just about live with digitized, but concertized!!! PUH-LEEEZE!!! 
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The best website I know of on Tuvan throat singing is http://www.atech.org/khoomei/khoomei.html hosted by Steve Sklar. He even gives samples of many different throat singing styles. The spectrogram page is the best of the bunch, in my opinion. I am a voice and speech teacher, and I use the term ululate to mean something different than overtone singing - ululate to me means to use the back of the tongue to go up and down (often very quickly) to make a shrill sound. Often done at a very high pitch, along the lines of 'ah-yuh-yuh-yuh-yuh" etc. However, I went to the website above and listened to some of the samples of the overtone singing, and the harmonics do appear to be, in some cases, much like a ululation. The way the sound shifts is very different (essentially the harmonic that is shifting is different). From my limited knowledge of overtone singing, the formant (or overtone) which is changing is the one that is controlled by the tongue curling back, or retroflecting, as in English vowels that are R-colored, as in "Err, bird, furry, worm" etc. in US speech. Hope that helps, enrique
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Welcome, Iglesias!
Goodness, the things one learns at this place! Thank you!
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Wow, enrique! That's awesome knowledge. In your professional opinion, is Johnny Weismuller's Tarzan wail a kind of ululation? 
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Dear Enrique, Thank you for your wonderfully detailed information on Tuvan throat singing. I went to the website you recommended and for some reason, I couldn't get my Real Player to play the spectrograph illustrations. It kept on buffering and then cutting out and rebuffering. I did find one all-too-brief example on another website. That made me happy to hear the wondrous sound again. When I was a child I used to try to sing chords--at night--under the covers so nobody could hear me. Too bad I lived in Long Island, not Tuva!
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I couldn't get my Real Player to play the spectrograph illustrations. It kept on buffering...awaddle, sounds like a good ol' dodgy connection to me! There's a novelty.  Now, you should be able to download the entire sound file(s) rather than play them as a live and shaky audio stream. If you have Internet Explorer, right-click on the spectrographs/sound files and select Save Target As... then choose a location and filename on your PC. The files may take a little while to download, but sounds to me like the wait would be worthwhile for you. One they're downloaded, just double-clicking on the local copies should play them. So go for it, and enjoy! I can probably suss how to do this on other browsers if you don't have IE. Keep us 'posted'.
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