#78452
08/16/2002 3:15 PM
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Does anyone know anything about the origin of the phrase "hunky dory"? A friend told me that he saw it in a list of quotes from immigrants at Ellis Island and he thought it might be of Danish origin.
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#78453
08/16/2002 3:21 PM
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from Atomica:
hun·ky-do·ry
adj. Slang.
Perfectly satisfactory; fine.
[Probably alteration of hunky, safe, all right, from obsolete hunk, goal, home in a game, from Dutch honk, from Frisian hunk.]
and from M-W:
Main Entry: hun.ky-do.ry
Pronunciation: "h&[ng]-kE-'dOr-E, -'dor-
Function: adjective
Etymology: obsolete English dialect hunk (home base) + -dory (origin unknown)
Date: 1866
: quite satisfactory : FINE
formerly known as etaoin...
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#78454
08/16/2002 4:11 PM
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#78455
08/16/2002 10:16 PM
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Sooo ... David Bowie didn't make it up as a hunky-dory title for his album? Damn, another illusion shattered! 
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#78456
08/17/2002 3:04 AM
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from Bartleby, The American Heritage Dictionary: dory2
SYLLABICATION: do·ry
PRONUNCIATION: dôr, dr
NOUN: Inflected forms: pl. do·ries
1. John Dory. 2. See walleye (sense 1).
ETYMOLOGY: Middle English dorre, from Old French doree, from feminine past participle of dorer, to gild, from Late Latin deaurre : Latin d-, de- + Latin aurum, gold. That would seem to make sense...adding to satisfactory (hunky), gilded (dory). >from Late Latin deaurre : Latin d-, de- + Latin aurum, gold.< How did you miss this one, Faldage? Nits must be in season...
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#78457
08/17/2002 3:21 PM
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Aww, gosh. Normally people just call me by my first name. Seem to forget that my last name's Dory.
TEd
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#78458
08/17/2002 6:35 PM
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W'ON: How did you miss this one, Faldage? Nits must be in season... ROTFLMAO! 
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#78459
08/19/2002 10:35 AM
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Thanks. That makes sense especially in the Ellis Island context safe at home.
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#78460
08/19/2002 10:37 AM
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That was my second guess!
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#78461
08/19/2002 11:46 AM
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Welcome aBoard, buccojoe; nice to have you. :-) May I offer a suggestion? Early on, we found out that, when there were already several posts in a thread, if a new post just included a response only, it was often difficult to tell which previous one it was referring to. So we got into the habit of either quoting part of what we were responding to, or perhaps using the other person's name; something, anyway, to indicate specifically. I'm not fussing, please understand--I'm just wondering what your second guess was!  WO'N, thank you for including dory! Even I know that dorado means gold--that is so cool! How did the little boat come to be called a dory?
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#78462
08/19/2002 12:48 PM
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How did you miss this one, Faldage? Nits must be in season...
ROTFLMAO!
Parm my beg to differmints, but
Huh?
Where's the nit?
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08/19/2002 4:50 PM
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Where's the nit?Oh, no!...no nits here! Just that you must be so busy out picking nits, them being in season 'n' all, that you missed this delectable Latin citation..."the lure of the nit" is the onliest thing I can think of that could've distracted you from that! Sheesh! Do I have to start 'splainin' all my punchlines like Leno? 
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#78464
08/19/2002 4:53 PM
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you missed this delectable Latin citation
And where'd you get the idea that I'd be bothering to look for a Latin citation?
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#78465
08/19/2002 5:12 PM
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And where'd you get the idea that I'd be bothering to look for a Latin citation?Well, being the Latin Scholar you are, I figured you'd have it at your fingertips! Why would you have to look? Are we all hunky-dory, now?
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08/19/2002 5:16 PM
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Latin Scholar
Well, I suppose if it had been spelled hunky de aurey
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#78467
08/20/2002 9:34 AM
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Hmmm. Non modo sed etiam!
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#78468
08/27/2002 3:06 PM
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Sooo ... David Bowie didn't make it up as a hunky-dory title for his album? My first association too, Cap But "hunky dory" seems to have been around for ages. I think of it as slightly better than OK or alright. More jolly, equivalent to spot on or tip-top if we're going for (more archaic) Britlish equivalents - or just very well indeed more generally. For some reason I've got in the habit of using the term quite a lot over the last 10 or so years. Quite often kick off or end emails with "Hope all is hunky dory". Interestingly I haven't used the term much if at all with non-Brits, assuming it wouldn't be understood. Highly ironic if it actually originated in the US. As for the meaning, I'd assumed : hunky = very much, great big portions of [related to "hunks of meat" and so on] but also with a touch of (as the dictionaries seem to have it) settled, comfortable [as in "hunkering down" perhaps] anddory = (as WO'N) golden [related to the names Dorien and Doreen and the French d'or]. FWIW
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#78469
08/28/2002 1:11 PM
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And, then, a Hunky dory could be a small Hungarian boat. Welcome back, Shona!
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#78470
08/28/2002 3:04 PM
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a Hunky dory could be a small Hungarian boat..in which the galley slaves get whipped by a goulash, Juan?
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#78471
08/28/2002 5:09 PM
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..in which the galley slaves get whipped by a goulash, Juan?Twenty goulashes for you!
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