#78350
08/16/2002 2:51 AM
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Is the proper term, Blackfoot tribe? or blackfeet tribe?
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#78351
08/16/2002 3:35 AM
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#78352
08/16/2002 6:43 PM
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Here is a site that gives origin of the name. Scroll down about one third: http://www.umt.edu/globalfirenet/chiefmtn.htmThe origin semms to indicate that only "Blackfeet" makes any sense.
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#78353
08/17/2002 8:38 PM
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A Google search for "Blackfeet Indians" yielded nada. However there is a page of links for "Blackfoot Indians" Years ago I found pens made by the Blackfoot Indians" that were super...tons of ink and no gloppy tips. Pen said Blackfoot Indians right on barrell . Didn't we do this once before...looooong ago? No offense to newcomers...sometimes I cannot recall my name, other times ...well it's just luck! I guess! P.S. Ah Hah! Thread begun by Of Troy re pens : http://wordsmith.org/board/showthreaded.pl?Cat=&Board=wordplay&Number=39727Reading old entry there seems there is confusion over Blackfoot/Blackfeet. And the Bureau of indian Affair page is unavailable. If you *really want to know try google of "U.S. Department of the Interior Bureau of Indian Affairs." Good luck!
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#78354
08/17/2002 9:04 PM
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More than you want probably. http://www.roadtripusa.com/us_2/montana.htmlThe tribal reservation is in Montana near Canadian border. Scroll about half way thru and near ochre-tinted insert for Glacier NAtional Park you'll find info on the Blackfeet. WHEW!
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#78355
08/17/2002 9:20 PM
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"However there is a page of links for "Blackfoot Indians" "
The Blackfoot Indians were the ones who went through the charcoal of the forest fire
hopping on one foot only. To prove how rugged they were. The history books
however have forgotten to mention that there right footed ones and left footed ones.
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#78356
08/19/2002 2:51 AM
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When I was young I was a member of a street gang of intellectual hoodlums who, after a hard night of breaking into parking meters, would sit in cars with our intellectual chicks, around our secluded garbage dump, drinking nickels and nickels worth of cheap beer, and asking each other weighty questions in order to determine the order that we were to be pecked. One pseudo-intellectual puzzle that I thought cool was one that some of you might remember, it goes something like this... There are two tribes of Indians, the Blackfeet and the Whitefeet. The Whitefooted indians never lied, and the Blackfooted indians never told the truth. Both tribes, however, always kept their feet covered, and the conundrum was to determine which one of these interesting savages was which. But, and here's the catch, only by asking them questions about their feet. I think you got as many questions as you needed to make a determination. Anyone remember the game and want to play? I think the method was rather simple. I will now try to remember what it was.  I hope I got the instructions right. Milum the Hun.
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#78357
08/19/2002 11:40 AM
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interesting savagesgood grief, what century are we living in? 
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#78358
08/19/2002 12:54 PM
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only by asking them questions about their feet
Did you know there's a creeping rot on your feet?
Then you look at their feet when they remove their quaint savage moccasins.
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#78359
08/19/2002 3:58 PM
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re:interesting savages
red]good grief, what century are we living in?
Oh, come on.. Milo was having us on, and first used a series of diparaging terms about himself and his companions.. and signed off as "the Hun"...
he managed to dis a large number of groups (many of which he claimed to belong to!) His post was good natured.. given how he defined his puzzle as pseudo-intelectual, i hardly think we need to react to his post as if he were some sort of rude, politically incorrect brute.
which he might be.. but that's fodder for an other thread!
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#78360
08/19/2002 4:48 PM
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I agree. Milum is having a good time. Like in the book thread over in Miscellany, he's looking for reactions. Without emoticons (cross-threading yet again) it doesn't come across as such.
I ain't saying, I'm just saying...
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#78361
08/19/2002 5:18 PM
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he's looking for reactions.
I gave him one.
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#78362
08/19/2002 6:28 PM
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interesting savages ! good grief, what century are we living in?  ! ~ etaoinApparently one without humor. Mmmm? Now wait just a minute. These are hypothetical Indians! These are MY hypothetical indians and I want them to plunder, ravage and rape. If you want nice indians, etaoin, go get your own, and then maybe some sharp honkys like faldage can trick them out of their moccasins and Manhattan, and then this brave new century can put faldage in jail along with the rest of the CEO's, and then make restitution for Manhattan, and then buy wing-tip shoes for all of the Indians, no matter what race, creed, or color. And now I want everybody to stand up and hug yourself, because you, and I mean that we-ly, are sensitive and kind and will fight to the bitter end until we, together, cleanse this world of ugly name-calling.And as for you of troy,( by the way thanks for kinda coming to my defense awhala go. I owe you one. I think. ) what's wrong with Huns? All Huns weren't bad. There were little baby Huns, sweet grandmother type Huns, and thoughtful Huns that forgoed meat for organically grown veggies without the need of man-made salt. Are we to believe that these sweet people sacked Central Europe? I think not!
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#78363
08/19/2002 6:52 PM
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Hey, Milo! I'll bet you and your intellectual entourage could have had some dandy
games of truth or consequences.
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#78364
08/19/2002 7:29 PM
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Huh? re:without the need of man-made salt?
Can you s'plain that? do you mean salt created by evaporation vs. naturaly occuring rock salt (ie, rock salt that was created by evaporation thousand of years ago)?
is is this some sort of new salt i don't know about? or are you just tempting me to continue with the salt thread i started (and that fell flat!) --Potash to you!
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#78365
08/19/2002 7:40 PM
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Man made salt? Nothing to it. Just add some hydrochloric acid to some sodium hydroxide
and if you don't get and explosion from adding it too rapidly, you'll get a solution of salt,
which you could evaporate.
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#78366
08/19/2002 7:45 PM
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Man made salt?
Can't you just burn sodium in a chlorine atmosphere?
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#78367
08/19/2002 7:55 PM
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sharp honkys like faldage can trick them out of their moccasin
I wan't tryin to steal no moccasins. Cain' ask em, what color are your feet? They'll just all say, "White". Cain' ask em if I was to ask you what color are your feet, what would you say? They'll just think that's some stupid anglo way a askin what color are your feet and they'll all say, "White". Cain' ask em did you know they're giving a way free beer in town. That's from a whole nother logic problem an all it'll do is tell you which is the road to town.
They kin keep they dang moccasins far as I care. I jus wanna know what color is their feet.
Geesh, solve a stupid problem and all over sudden everbody starts callin ya some kind CEO.
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#78368
08/19/2002 8:18 PM
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#78369
08/19/2002 8:28 PM
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Dear Faldage: as result of age, I no longer enjoy breathing in a chlorine atmosphere.
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#78370
08/19/2002 9:04 PM
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interesting savages
good grief, what century are we living in?The 2Oth Century, evidently!...if you read Vachel Lindsay's classic performance poem The Congo  : http://www.library.utoronto.ca/utel/rp/poems/lindsay10.html
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#78371
08/20/2002 9:02 AM
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The question about how you can tell which one has what colo(u)r feet is very interesting. But it can be solved with just one question. (It assumes, BTW, that each one knows the colour of the other's feet - only you don't know.)
What is the one question about the colo(u)r of their feet that will inevitably reveal which is the truthful and which the lying man? (IOW, you may not question them about their own or the other persons truthfulness.)
PM the answers to me, so that premature publication on the board doesn't spoil other peoples fun.
I'll publish the answer and the winners on Thursday, 10 am BST.
Special prize if anyone comes up with a non-standard answer that works!
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#78372
08/20/2002 9:09 AM
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Can't you just burn sodium in a chlorine atmosphere?Oh, is that what happened to Lot's wife? 
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#78373
08/20/2002 10:21 AM
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What is the one question about the colo(u)r of their feet that will inevitably reveal which is the truthful and which the lying man?
If you're going to go around making assumptions about conditions not stated in the problem, why not just assume they're wearing transparent moccasins?
Nothing was said about there being two Indians, one from each tribe, in the statement of the problem.
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#78374
08/20/2002 10:45 AM
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Ok, just so's you all know: the winning answer has just been submitted.
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#78375
08/20/2002 11:53 AM
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The original problme states:- There are two tribes of Indians, the Blackfeet and the Whitefeet. The Whitefooted indians never lied, and the Blackfooted indians never told the truth. Both tribes, however, always kept their feet covered, and the conundrum was to determine which one of these interesting savages was which.But, and here's the catch, only by asking them questions about their feet. ( My emphasis) The statement of the problem is imprecise - presumably because milum was struggling to recall the thing from a few years ago when he was a youngster. However, the use of "which one" provided me with a reasonable excuse to infer just two subjects in the experiment. It also concurs with my own memories of a similar problem. If they did not know each other, then the question would be very simple - you would ask each "What colour is the other one's feet?" - The truthful one would say "I don't know;" - The liar would have to state a colour, rather than say that he didn't know. This makes the problem hardly worth the thought; I have, therefore, added a logical ppiece of vital information. Next nit, please . . . Edit Sorry - I managed to cut, rather than copy, and paste the emphasised bit.
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#78376
08/20/2002 12:02 PM
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Two attempts, so far, neither correct! Remember, folks, the only questions permitted are about the colour of feet, not questions like "Are you a liar?" 
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#78377
08/20/2002 12:04 PM
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Next nit, please . . . If y'all'd stop being so funny, I might could be able to stop losing my coffee on the keyboard hi TEd! and post something reasonable.
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#78378
08/20/2002 12:45 PM
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Thanks a whole bleep of a lot, Rhuby. Here me n milum are havin us a good ole mud rassle and you waltz in with the far hose of logic...
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#78379
08/20/2002 1:03 PM
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Well - sorry, an'all that, old chap, to get in your bad book - a mal folio indeed. In my defence, I do have to say that the yellow hose of my logic is very often worn cross-gartered!
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#78380
08/20/2002 1:08 PM
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Whoops - I managed to send that one twice - it really isn't that good!
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#78381
08/20/2002 7:47 PM
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>>yellow hose of my logic is very often worn cross-gartered
What???? [confused e]
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08/20/2002 8:52 PM
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>yellow hose of my logic is very often worn cross-gartered
What???? [confused e]
I'm lost, too. Maybe Rhuby's making a Faldaggian attempt at emulating the yellow hose of Texas?
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#78383
08/21/2002 12:26 AM
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>>> yellow hose of my logic is very often worn cross-gartered>> What???? [confused e]> I'm lost, too. Maybe Rhuby's making a Faldaggian attempt at emulating the yellow hose of Texas?If I'm not mistaken, that's a reference to Twelfth Night. Mal folio, Malvolio... I got it, Rhuby!
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#78384
08/21/2002 6:47 AM
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I searched our local garden centres high and low. Nowhere could I find yellow hose, only green; and you have to buy at least 20 metres of it. Wrap that around your legs!
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#78385
08/21/2002 6:51 AM
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If I'm not mistaken, that's a reference to Twelfth Night. Mal folio, Malvolio... I got it, Rhuby! Attagirl, FB!! (The rest of you can LIU !)
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#78386
08/21/2002 10:08 AM
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He's not content to limit his wet blanket approach to logic or classical references; he's got to insult the Women of the Great State of Texas, too.
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#78387
08/21/2002 10:41 AM
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Are you harking back to the pre-historical period when the great Meteorite landed in the state, causing it to shake from border to border? The occasion when the yell "OW !!! rose from texas?
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#78388
08/21/2002 12:39 PM
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Hey, Rhuby, you're just a garter snake! Been hangin' around Faldage and his boa too long, I take it? Now, do these Native American/American Aborigine/Amerindian/Indians have hair on their feet? Hobbitlike, maybe..hmm? Is that what you added to increase the logic?
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#78389
08/21/2002 12:44 PM
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Now, do these Native American/American Aborigine/Amerindian/Indians have hair on their feet?
How else would they be able to move so silently when they absquaulate, if they did not walk on hair?
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