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Over here we let the chickens sex themselves.
Regardless of whether you meant "themselves" or "one another", belM, if that's how your chickens behave I suspect that your roosters have an identity problem, not to mention their own frustrations.
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a higher ratio of voyeurs at around 8:1 than say YART at 5:1.
How did you suss the ratios out, mav ?
Lots of voyeurs is great stuff, really - means any postings to this thread are being viewed by more people who agree with everything that's being said.
Perhaps we should take the opportunity to advertise something!
Though that is a bit predictable coming under SEX in big letters.
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Were Masters & Johnson more voyeurs than participants?
:-?
(yes the emoticon does sort of work, tsuwm!)
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This really isn't a reply.
Sorry Anna, too late. You're a participant now!
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>But I can't help notice this thread has more views than participants - a higher ratio of voyeurs at around 8:1 than say YART at 5:1.< - Stand up and be counted  ! I no longer mind to be counted among voyeurs, though. Isn't it just another word for spectator or observer? Created by those who missed the opportunity?
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suss the ratios out
Hi Fishy - just a quick look at the summary of hits and replies.
But let me restate the original question, stripped of its jocular notes. Does anyone agree that gender is a useful and appropriate word to describe someone's, well, gender, as sex is an overused word that carries too much baggage?
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..just another word for spectator or observer? Created by those who missed the opportunity?Yes - created by those who missed the opportunity to watch for those who missed the opportunity to participate! But if we all got up on the stage, there'd be no audience. So voyeurs all, hold your heads high - the players have no life without you!
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mav, you've probably guessed my opinion:
"Gender" is clearly less ambiguous, but it's also dry and colourless.
"Sex" is better any day!
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Getting this thread back up by getting down to the original question  : If I correctly remember, the word "gender" was introduced in the context of fighting women's discrimination. Maybe soon we shall realize that this linguistic strategem did not help any, and return to the plain "sex". Remember the thread about minorities and their politically correct designation?
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this linguistic strategem did not help anyYou may have a point here, wsieber. I recently encountered a discussion on radio that mentioned the way PC language can itself be simlpy subverted. The example offered was the term challenged, originally intended to eliminate the negative connotations of insulting school yard phrases - yet now hurled about with exactly the same glee by monstrous spotty Kevins all over the place! "Oh, dear - Tracy's a bit challenged, yeah!" The point being made was that no PC dyke could hope to hold back the floodwaters of actual meaning - if the intention is to wound, a non-emotive phrase can be invested with just as much poison as an obviously acidic word. But I still find gender a useful term, even though I like sex in many other places - and is sex ever plain?
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