#75677
07/10/2002 10:43 AM
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So clearly it's: de luxe = of luxury.
But does anyone use 'de luxe'? As far as I know both are acceptable, but is the spaced version waning in all but slick company names?
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#75678
07/10/2002 11:17 AM
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Hmmmm, I wrote a poem about Miss O'Hara and used "deluxe" in it. Now I'm wondering whether I should go back and put "de luxe" in instead. Deluxe is tight and to the point. But De luxe has a kind of implied "sigh" of wonder in between its syllables. I like that gap--that place for the imagination to provide an image.
Thanks, B'y', for bringing it up.
Best regards,
Dub-De Luxe
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#75679
07/10/2002 11:21 AM
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I wonder if "deluxe" isn't an invention of commspeak.
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#75680
07/10/2002 11:51 AM
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#75681
07/10/2002 12:00 PM
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I'd always write "de luxe", and would probably be inclined to make the first characters uppercase. Trying to remember now whether my son's birthday present was a De Luxe Megazordor a Deluxe Megazord- I think the former, which (as WW says) implies more class, somehow. And Hello Jackie!  [fanfare]
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#75682
07/10/2002 12:08 PM
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Yes, De Luxe Fanfare for Jackie!!! Smooch, Wordwind
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#75683
07/10/2002 12:25 PM
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We rejoice to see Jackie posting again!
If I owned a Mercedes, I would have transportation de luxe.
I am limited to deluxe walking shoes.
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#75684
07/10/2002 3:56 PM
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If I owned a Mercedes, I would have transportation de luxe.
I am limited to deluxe walking shoes.
I think your distinction makes perfect sense, Bill. I just can't work out why.
[BTW, here's to you Jackie!]
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#75685
07/10/2002 4:23 PM
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Dear BY: My walking shoes are very well designed, and very well made. But they are hardly
a luxury. A Mercedes is probably the most expensive car made, and definitely a luxury.
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#75686
07/10/2002 4:29 PM
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Though I usually use deluxe, I've seen De Luxe used, especially in referring to items on a dinner menu (I.E. Crab Imperial De Luxe). Hmmm...now I'm wondering if there's a precedent for beverage size...whether it's usually deluxe or De Luxe, as in small, medium, large, de...? Dr. Bill's example does handily clarify the distinction between the two. (Howdy Kintucky! Good to see your smiling name again, Jackie!)
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#75687
07/10/2002 4:49 PM
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I was guessing communication speak. Wonder which it is.
ReHowdy to ya,
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#75688
07/10/2002 4:51 PM
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Hey Jackie - meet me in Vegas and we'll have brunch at De Luxor. 
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07/10/2002 5:28 PM
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I'd been wondering where the heck you were!
Makes me realize how long it's been since I've gone to the beach. Long time, no sea!
Welcome back, dearest lady!
HUGS
TEd
TEd
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07/10/2002 6:02 PM
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Thanks, you-all--love you! (De)luxury, indeed! De Luxor--sounds like something out of Lois and Clark (speaking of Kents!). by--a special spill-I-mean-clink of the beer glasses to you, Sweetie. Ted--sir, you have no idea of how beachy I can be! 
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#75691
07/10/2002 6:07 PM
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just for old time's sake (hi Jackie!), here's what the dictionaries have to say:
M-W gives it solely as deluxe.
AHD prefers deluxe, but lists de luxe as a variant.
OED Online: ||de luxe [Fr., lit. ‘of luxury’.]
Luxurious, sumptuous; of a superior kind.
1819 Edition de luxe [see LUXE 2]. 1865 ‘OUIDA’ Strathmore viii, I wonder
governments don't tax good talk; it's quite a luxury, and they might add de luxe. 1885
Edition de luxe [see LUXE 2]. 1890 Trains de luxe [see LUXE 2]. 1908 Westm. Gaz. 6
June 5/1 We are conscious of something De luxe, but not oppressed by the sense of it.
1934 Punch 20 June 679/3 They will disclose Britannia, enthroned on the top of a de
luxe model of one of those erections from which they mend tram-wires. 1949 E. POUND
Pisan Cantos lxxvii. 52 Before the deluxe car carried him over the precipice. 1955 T. H.
PEAR Eng. Social Differences viii. 182 Members of the upper economic strata..who
patronise hotels de luxe. 1970 K. CHESNEY Victorian Underworld 336 These places
were often little businesses engaged in a de luxe trade, glovers, bonnet makers, perfumers
and so on.
so perhaps we have Ezra Pound to thank for the concatenation? and using capitalization seems to be ostentatious in the extreme, along the same lines as dining at the American Grille.
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#75692
07/10/2002 6:34 PM
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> American Grille.
LMAO!!!!! What a classic!
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#75693
07/10/2002 8:00 PM
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<<commspeak = commonspeak>>
commspeak = commercial speech.
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#75694
07/10/2002 8:10 PM
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Badword the OED. "deluxe" is English word, "de luxe" is a French phrase, mes amis.
Used by Amercans who know at least ten words in French.
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#75695
07/10/2002 8:16 PM
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'Allo!
Dix?
Merde!
A bientot et Au revoir.
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#75696
07/10/2002 9:05 PM
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>Badword the OED. "deluxe" is English word, "de luxe" is a French phrase, mes amis.
what the bad word, Bill? deluxe is derived directly from de luxe, so what's yer point?!
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#75697
07/10/2002 9:25 PM
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Dear tsuwm: I am trying to figure out how to explain to you the difference between
French and English.
For openers, would you believe "de" is not an English word?
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#75698
07/10/2002 9:33 PM
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It's all in the knows, Dr. Bill. [ducking and running for cover like a goose-e] Actually, I really just wanted to say a big "Hi and welcome back!" to Jackie but the thought of you trying to explain to tsuwm the difference between English and French is way too deelux a joke! Make what you will of the grammer of the previous sentence. I don't care [tossing my head-e]
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#75699
07/10/2002 9:35 PM
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tsuwm: he's not all there.
bill: I don't understand you at all today, but then sometimes I don't understand my own posts:-)
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07/10/2002 9:38 PM
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Dear consuelo: I thought about using Smileys, but couldn't find any that did the job.
The Prioresse in thae Canterbury tales "intuned through her nose full seemly" when speaking
the Frennsh of Stratfort-at-Bowe. I can't do that, my nose is always blocked.
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#75701
07/10/2002 9:47 PM
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wwh writes: The Prioresse in thae Canterbury tales "intuned through her nose full seemly" when speaking
the Frennsh of Stratfort-at-Bowe. I can't do that, my nose is always blocked.
Only our Dr. Bill can be both adolescent and refer to the Canterbury Tales at the same time!  [still waiting for Anu to send me the raspberry-e]
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#75702
07/11/2002 12:35 AM
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Good Grief guys and gruneons has it escaped your notice that we here speak new age english and that all of our words are in a state of progressive transition? Gee whiz daddios don't you know that americanized english tilts the tad when it comes to usage and that noone cares nomore aboot what was once proper french. Do we say " Secretary de de fense? Does Cole Porter not say " It's delovely" Does not De Camptown Ladies Sing Dis Song- Doo-Dah?Does not JACKIE owe those of us here who missed her badly a thousand kisses and a thousand posts? I'm not de best of thinkers but I think that de answer is YES. Glad you're back Queen Jack ! - - 
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#75703
07/11/2002 10:12 AM
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Hey There Jackie - Great to see you again!
stales
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#75704
07/11/2002 1:36 PM
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De Luxe Megazord
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Deluxe MegazordI checked this morning (yep, that's how sad I am), and it's a DELUXE Megazord. Interestingly this is abbreviated to DX [rather than DL] Megazord on the side of the box. For the benefit of those who want to see what I'm talking about (you never know ): http://www.rangercentral.com/prc/toy-prtf1.htm
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#75705
07/11/2002 1:39 PM
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>I am trying to figure out how to explain to you the difference between French and English.
dear wwh, here's a French word for you: degringolade.
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07/11/2002 1:46 PM
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degringoladeA type of US soda pop? whoops! I forgot that smileys were considered adolescent and a sign of a low IQ....
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07/11/2002 3:36 PM
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degringolade comes in deraspberry and degrape. My kids love it. Rubrick, I'll be a dumb adolescent right along wit you!!
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#75708
07/12/2002 1:55 AM
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"It's delightful, it's delicious, it's delectable, it's delirious,
It's dilemma, it's de limit, it's deluxe, it's de-lovely"
Cole Porter had to be thinking of someone just like you, Jackie, when he came up with this. Here's looking at you, kid!
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07/12/2002 7:03 PM
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Le Grille? What the h* is Le Grille? These instructions are so confusing!- Homer Simpson. Hi Jackie.
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#75710
07/13/2002 1:29 AM
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Le Grille? What the h* is Le Grille? These instructions are so confusing!- Homer Simpson. Hi Jackie.
Hi, Sweetie--I've been wondering if you were still around.
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#75711
07/13/2002 6:57 AM
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Hi Jackie.
Whoops, wrong persona. Wait one ...
- Pfranz
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07/13/2002 6:59 AM
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Ah, that's better. Hi Jackie! What's all this crap about smilies being retrograde and the sign of a ga-ga mentality or something? Has shIT been at it again?
The idiot also known as Capfka ...
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07/13/2002 4:20 PM
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What's all this crap about smilies being retrograde and the sign of a ga-ga mentality or something? Has shIT been at it again?
Hi, Sweetheart--well, no less than four people wrote to me saying they don't think so. So...my apologies, jopo.
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#75714
07/23/2002 4:01 PM
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From the customary meaning of "deluxe" as used in diners, Our Household Dictionary ("the epitomy of local usage") defines deluxe as with lettuce and tomato.
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07/23/2002 4:10 PM
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One of the things about "deluxe" that I have noticed that, as many products have a sort of inflation of adjectives, deluxe ends up denoting the cheapest variety. For example, a product might be offerred as deluxe, special, and custom. That way even the guy who buys the cheapest one can say "I got the deluxe model!" It is sort of like the tendency of restaurants to offer three sizes of soft drink: large, extra-large and super-size.
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07/24/2002 12:40 PM
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You've done it agian, Sparteye!
defines deluxe as with lettuce and tomato.
that sums up so neatly the spirit of the difference between "de luxe" and "deluxe"
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