#75454
07/09/2002 12:39 PM
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The use of smileys is both adolescent and indicative of low IQ. In the case of the exclamation mark I encourage members to consult Fowler on its use. Perhaps I find myself at the wrong website.
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#75455
07/09/2002 12:58 PM
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gee, we knew there was a reason we didn't like all those emoticons... right ASp?
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#75456
07/09/2002 1:09 PM
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Emotion is different when one writes a story or scholarly work. There, the reader has a lot of context with which to discern emotional content. However, in these short exchanges, often of one or two sentences, it is critical to distinguish mood. Granted, it is sometimes overdone. However, it is important to distinguish between:
"Hey, you're a jerk."
vs.
"Hey, you're a jerk. ;-)"
In the first instance, it is a flamewar ready to happen. In the second, it is obviously someone pretending to disagree but really is not. Sure, someone could go through a lengthy explanation. It would not have the instant impact, and further, the internet is a new form of communication. You'll note it took a few thousand years for written communication to approach the emotional complexity of spoken. Net communication requires its own conventions and tools. It is neither immature nor a sign of intellectual inferiority. It is a sign of change.
Cheers,
Bryan
You are only wretched and unworthy if you choose to be.
Cheers,
Bryan
You are only wretched and unworthy if you choose to be.
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#75457
07/10/2002 12:43 AM
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<<You are only wretched and unworthy if you choose to be.>>
But only the wretched and unworthy would choose to be.
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#75458
07/10/2002 12:56 AM
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Perhaps I find myself at the wrong website. Yes, perhaps you are at the wrong website. This is a group that likes all manifestations of word usage and enjoy laughing together at every opportunity. If you'd enjoy a good snicker with your serious interchanges of ideas, welcome. If not, I'm sure there are many other sites you could visit. 
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#75459
07/10/2002 1:04 AM
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Dear consuelo: are you sure that Smiley really takes the sting out of your words?
Just because jopublic stuck his neck out, must you chop it off? A smile for both
of you. I shyly confess I find Smileys more work than they are really worth. Another smile.
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#75460
07/10/2002 1:06 AM
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Thanks jopublic for insulting my IQ even before you have even interacted with me!  Calling me adolescent, however, is a compliment. So thanks!  Oh, and WELCOME  to our fine, friendly forum, by the way!
Paranoia sets in and I check my post over at least five times before hitting the continue button... Oops! Maybe I shouldn't use ellipsis either. Is my IQ lower now? Again? [tongue-firmly-planted-in-cheek-e] Gosh, surely it can't get much lower than it already is with the volume of emoticons I've used in this post!
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#75461
07/10/2002 1:12 AM
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#75462
07/10/2002 1:14 AM
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Let us not have a flamewar about Smileys and emoticons. I don't use either,
but it's mostly laziness. I just pretend I'm trying to improve my use of words
to the point the little accessories are unnecessary.
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#75463
07/10/2002 1:18 AM
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Aw, c'mon, Dr. Bill. Can't you give me just one little smiley emoticon to brighten up my day? Pretty please with sugar on it?
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#75464
07/10/2002 1:26 AM
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I still remember the Virginian in Owen Wister's book "Smile when you call me that, stranger!"
(Or I'll whip out my .45 and blow your head off!) I type touch, and can "say it with a smile"
a lot easier than getting into the Tips section and learning how to do Smileys. Another smile.
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#75465
07/10/2002 1:31 AM
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Let us not have a flamewar about Smileys and emoticons
Hey, Dr Bill, no flamewar going on. Just think it's a bit harsh to make a judgement on anyone's IQ based on whether they happen to put : and ) together to come up with :) Ya know? There's so much more to people than that. I thought I was doing that with a bit of humour to get my point across, but it seems that even emoticons can't save me from being misunderstood.  [sigh-e]
Is everyone hyper-sensitive around here at the moment, or is it just me? Joke Joyce! Ha ha everybody! Remember? Laughter? Ha ha ha ... Love yas! Oh Sh*t! Another exclamation mark! Oops! Aargh...
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#75466
07/10/2002 1:38 AM
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I'm waiting to hear jopublic's take on the flak he's getting.
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#75467
07/10/2002 1:42 AM
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#75468
07/10/2002 1:56 AM
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Dr Bill: waiting to hear from jopublic
Connie: need a sense of humor to thrive here so I sure hope he has a healthy one
I'm with Connie on this one, Bill. I'm not trying to give jopublic flak. (Where did that term come from BTW?) I'm just trying to let him know that he'll need to be tolerant of all types of people (emoticon-users and non) if he wishes to participate here. I'm not going to stop using them because someone thinks they are adolescent and indicate that I have a low IQ.
In hindsight, I should perhaps have just let his comments go but ... ah, what the hell - I couldn't resist! Perhaps I should merely have asked jopublic for some statistical data to back up his case. The research on something like that would be fascinating! Ha ha ha! More jokes everybody! Remember? Laughter?
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#75469
07/10/2002 2:10 AM
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Just in case anyone was intrigued, as I was: From Merriam-Webster: Main Entry: flak
Pronunciation: 'flak
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural flak
Etymology: German, from Fliegerabwehrkanonen, from Flieger flyer + Abwehr defense + Kanonen cannons
Date: 1938
1 : antiaircraft guns
2 : the bursting shells fired from flak
3 : CRITICISM, OPPOSITION
So - another loanword from German, then. Thanks everybody, I've learnt something today.
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#75470
07/10/2002 2:33 AM
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Connie, I'm offering 8 to 5 odds that Jopublic =/< 20 years old. That's the kind of comment that comes from the intolerant young parading some partial knowledge.  I ought to know -- I was like that at that age.
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#75471
07/10/2002 2:51 AM
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I'm offering 8 to 5 odds that Jopublic =/< 20 years old
That's funny, Bob! I'd be prepared to put money on jopublic being >= the age at which one becomes resistant to change. Oops! Just broke my promise to myself to not comment on this thread any more! Oh well, next year...
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#75472
07/10/2002 5:06 AM
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Eye...Cue...? Whassat?  John Entwistle just died, and one of my favorite Who tunes is "Whooooo are you? Who, who!? Who, who!?" Do you like The Who, jopublic? And please excuse the interrobangs!
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#75473
07/10/2002 8:47 AM
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I h8 all this kiddy talk that peoples r using 2!!!!!!
jopubic - shall we's be sartin' our ownz site, aight? :-())
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#75474
07/10/2002 9:28 AM
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from Flieger flyer + Abwehr defense + Kanonen cannons
another loanword from German, then
A loan-acronym, indeed, hev!
I wonder (aloud) if there are many loan-acronyms?
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#75475
07/10/2002 9:33 AM
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intolerant young ..I ought to know -- I was like that at that age.Damn. And here am I finding myself getting more and more crotchety and reactionary the older I get. Must have taken a wrong turn somewhere. 
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#75476
07/10/2002 9:40 AM
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both adolescent and indicative of low IQEgad! There are high IQ adolescents out there now, jo? When I was an adolescent the hormonal carpet-bombing put paid to most coherent thought, let alone IQ tests. Not sure what my excuse is now.
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#75477
07/10/2002 11:09 AM
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I don't have any problem at all with adolescent behavior manifested at any age. Adolescent intent of that behavior is what is to be considered. Even our beloved wwh has behaved adolescently here to my complete delight! And wwh knows that I'm not insulting either him or his IQ.
milum often posts adolescent commentary here, and those are some of the best to read here. milum shore ain't got no IQ problem.
The information is fine on AWAD, but, me, I like the adolescence, too. Truth be known, I like the adolescent commentary probably best of all 'cause I know it's coming from people with IQs high as anybody'd need 'em to be.
W'ON: I liked your "eye cue" phrase! That is pretty potent to consider, you know, if you think about it?
Me, I don't use many emoticons. Not 'cause of refusing to be adolescent. My behavior here is already adolescent enough, thank goodness. I would like (big wish) for Anu to find a raspberry emoticon--one that bubbled its little raspberry-colored lips and tiny raspberry tongue. I'd use that one a lot!
Best regards,
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#75478
07/10/2002 11:58 AM
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hey, i am an adolescent, and i dont know whether to be hurt flattered or amused. i think ill stick with amused, chill jopublic, this is a message board not an essay board ( just couldn't resist)
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#75479
07/10/2002 4:02 PM
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wwh - I'll try to make this "flak free"."The use of smileys is both adolescent and indicative of low IQ".I'm glad you clarified that for us! INCOMING!!!This sounds like a comment coming from someone who just finished adolescence. Whew - that was close...Why would I seek usage *comments from someone who doesn't speak my language? I heard the bullet whizz right past my ear on that one...If *they gave us "the bird" I wouldn't feel so obfuscative. Welcome aboard, jopublic! Life jackets on the right, please spit before you puke, and no smoking on deck after dark.However, it is my solemn *duty to come up with a nickname for anyone who can be so "touchy-feely" as quickly as you have... I dub thee... "Q-less". hev - Sensitive schmensitive!
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#75480
07/10/2002 4:47 PM
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jopublic (Occupation Thinker.) pontificates Perhaps I find myself at the wrong website.
Thinker?! We don' need no stinkin' thinkers!!
:-p
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#75481
07/11/2002 2:11 AM
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I'm offering 8 to 5 odds that Jopublic =/< 20 years old.Now now, adolescents and adolesense are two different things. Age bashing is getting old.
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#75482
07/11/2002 3:49 AM
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The use of smileys is both adolescent and indicative of low IQ.Huh? I don't understand.  And that's unusual, coz I is the smartest person on this board. Let us go in peace to love and serve the board.
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#75483
07/11/2002 10:07 AM
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<<The use of smileys is both adolescent and indicative of low IQ [etc.] >>
In answer, let me paraphrase,
'An absolutely invaluable contribution to [boardacol]. Well done. Have you any idea of the price of potatos these days?'
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Having said that
Anyone else mystified by jopu's blow from left field? I think he must have been rankled by Mav's response to his potato gunning in another thread ("I think I've Coined a New Expression"). The offending characters were [;p] (excluding brackets). Is that for "laugh?"
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#75484
07/11/2002 11:34 AM
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...The offending characters were [ ;p ] (excluding brackets). Is that for "laugh?" ...
I think that's supposed to be "a-wink,-while-sticking-your-tongue-out" ?
Not too hard to see how that could be taken as a put-down, I suppose. If you're feeling sensitive.
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07/11/2002 11:47 AM
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#75486
07/11/2002 2:43 PM
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No surprise to any who know and love you, Maverick!!!!!! This would be an interesting thread if it was not so manifestly impossible to read without going mad!!!!!! Give jopublic credit - this is the w----i----d----e----s----t post I've ever seen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What Happened???? what is going on ????? How did it get so wide ????? and how can it be fixed ????? Can it be fixed????? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Last time I took IQ test it was quite high (or so I was told.But then they do not want to upset idiots with truth, do they?) The newcomer might like to look up the difference between IQ and the ability to discern appropriateness. Also known as good taste. Perhaps?
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#75487
07/11/2002 2:48 PM
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Can it be fixed?Yeah, get Rube to edit the occasional space into his smiley barricade!
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#75488
07/11/2002 2:53 PM
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No surprise to any who know
and love yoou, Maverick!
Maverick? You're out by about 300 hundred miles, wow. 'Tis the other ---rick (Aye, there's the rub!).
No idea how the thread got so wide. I thought that could only happen with URLs. Perhaps I should delete some of the smileys and regain my IQ.......
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#75489
07/11/2002 3:03 PM
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The use of smileys is both adolescent and
indicative of low IQ. Oh, really? Cite source please! In the case of the exclamation mark
I encourage members to consult Fowler
on its use.While you are looking things up, refer to pedant One who pays undue attention to book learning and formal rules.
One who exhibits one's learning or scholarship ostentatiously.
Obsolete. A schoolmaster.
[French pédant or Italian pedante (Frenchfrom Italian), possibly from Vulgar Latin *paedçns, *paedent-, present participle of *paedere, to instruct, probably from Greek paideuein, from pais, paid-, child. Perhaps I find myself at the wrong website. Shouldn't that have a ? at end and not a . (she asked pedantically ?) pe·dan'ti·cal·ly adv.
SYNONYMS pedantic, academic, bookish, donnish, scholastic. These adjectives mean marked by a narrow, often tiresome focus on or display of learning and especially its trivial aspects: a pedantic writing style; an academic insistence on precision; a bookish vocabulary; donnish refinement of speech; scholastic and excessively subtle reasoning.
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved. You are most welcome here ! You will find that a keen sense of the absurd is a necessity.
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#75490
07/11/2002 3:10 PM
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RHUBY - How could I be so remiss.(((HUGS)))
and a big smack-a-rino kiss.
Plus apology.
Would a later buncha smiles cause the previous posts to go wide? Because this thread strarted out wide on my screen.
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#75491
07/11/2002 3:52 PM
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Very weird. The first time I checked in, this thread was normal. By yesterday afternoon, however, it had gone W-I-D-E.
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#75492
07/11/2002 5:32 PM
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>Very weird.
not so; all it takes is one wide post to make the entire thread wide. in this case it was the loooooooong string of unbroken smileys. subsequently, Rubrick broke up the string a bit, although it's still a little wide.
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#75493
07/11/2002 7:29 PM
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This has been THE most entertaining thread I've read. Thanks for the laughs!!
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