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the name the entire family uses now. I don't know if they had to do anything legally to make the changeYeah, as I said above, I don't believe it's a problem calling kids whatever you want (including surname) - you just register their names accordingly. As regards the parents, there would normally be some legalities involved (you change your name by "Deed Poll" in the UK), probably slightly more straightforward for the woman than the man due to the relevant authorities/companies having had more practice on that front (total supposition, this, but bet I'm right ). Once the couple have changed their names, they then need to notify everybody with whom they ever have dealings, especially banks. So give it another year or so for the name changes to percolate through for both the man and the woman. Then even junk mail will start coming through with the right names. Maybe. I have a friend who wanted to change his surname and adopted a far more cheap and straightforward route - he simply declared to all and sundry his wish to be known as the new name. This doesn't seem to have presented him with any problems, even with banks etc. And he doesn't get post addressed to his old name with "k/a newname" next to it, either, which surprised me a bit. Fisk
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I get around it by using first, middle and last name!
So why don't people give their children first names that they are going to use?
An anecdote. My mother was names Josephine Mildred. When the boys in the family started calling her "Jo" her mother put her foot down declaring with nine sons she wanted her daughter called by a girl's name not a boy's name. Thereafter and all her life she was Mildred. It became her legal signature as she used Mildred J. all her life.
In Scotland - if a female is the last of her name her husband may take her name in order to perpetuate an ancient lineage - after, of course, obtaining permission of the Standing Council of Chiefs.
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I have remembered me why it was that that man was called David Gregory, rather than Gregory David: it was to do with initials. His parents were Catholics and were concerned that people (perhaps especially cruel contemporaries in the schoolyard) would take the GD combination to mean "God Damn."
But can you ever be that careful, really? You might not see a bad acronym arising (like a bad moon rising, only less so). My mother's initials, for example, are PMS. There is NO WAY her parents could have foreseen what that would come to stand for....
Let us go in peace to love and serve the board.
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Heh ~ my mom's maiden name was Berneice Mortenson, and she was a nurse... so every time she initialled patient charts, this one's especially for you, Dr. Bill they had a BM.
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yes, a weird and ancient law allows one to simply declare a change in name in this country with no need to apply to official quarters, strange and pretty cool i think.
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A lawyer told me you could use any name you wanted to, so long as it was not to deceive or defraud. However since then there are so many things for which a legal name is required, that failing to get a legal name change could cause one many serious headaches. Social security, driver's license,bank accounts insurance, etc. etc etc.
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Reverting to the original thread:
If Yo-Yo Ma married Erica Jong, and they decided to use both names, he could be Yo-Yo Ma-Jong. Think of it!
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<<Think of it!>>
Must we?
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A lawyer told me you could use any name you wanted to, so long as it was not to deceive or defraud.
Correct. While looking up something else I quite by accident stumbled across a case noting thus (with 11 citations):
... under the common law (which is recognized both by Illinois and by the federal courts in this regard), a person may adopt a new name without resorting to the courts, and may even use his birth name again after having adopted a new name for a period of time. A party may properly effect legal process under any name so assumed. Indeed, a person who is known by two different names may use either name in legal process without affecting its validity, even if the name used is not his "true" name.
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Keiva: You started a flame war, and would not quit. You got re-instated by threats of a lawsuit. You will never be welcome in AWADtalk. I used to like and admire you, but now I despise you.
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