#72881
06/14/2002 6:15 PM
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I have a question. I am not english speaker and I don't know how to pronounce "won" ( past form of verb win). I am confused becouse dictionaries give many options:). Please write me how do you pronounce it. thanks
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#72882
06/14/2002 7:21 PM
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"Won" rhymes with one, sun, son, done, bun, fun, gun, run. If you have the right software, there are dictionaries that pronounce words.
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#72883
06/14/2002 7:28 PM
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Try http://www.m-w.com. Type the word 'won' into the dictionary portion and hit enter. Click the small speaker icon next to the word. It will pronounce the word for you. k
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#72884
06/14/2002 9:58 PM
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"Won" rhymes with one, sun, son, done, bun, fun, gun, runHmmm, not over this side of the Pond it doesn't, wwh! "Won" sounds exactly the same as "one" but that's as far as it goes. It also rhymes with "gone" and the names "Don" and "Ron". Though I'll bet Adam is happy with American pronunciation, and I suppose I can handle that..   Fisk
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#72885
06/15/2002 3:41 PM
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tell us more adam-- we have some regulars who's first language is italian and several who are very fluent in spanish, one in who is fluent in portugues. What is your first language?
and how did you find this place? there are so many on-line dictionaries that do offer wav files, i am surprize you found your way here, before finding one of them.
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#72886
06/15/2002 4:00 PM
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So I am from Poland. My first language is polish, but I am also learning spanish and french. I found a link to wordsmith.org on a site for teachers of english. Because dictionaries gave several options how to pronounce "won", I decided to ask native speakers. And here I am:)
I must say that I am still confused. I imagine that you told me the American english pronunciation, and what about British?
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06/15/2002 4:05 PM
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Welcome aboard, adam. A pleasure to have you with us.
Since I'm not british I can't directly answer your question, but I believe that this is not one of those words where the british and US pronunciations differ.
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#72888
06/15/2002 4:34 PM
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Welcome, Adam. You've asked for the British pronunciation of "won" - and Fish on a Bike IS British. He's posted the British pronunciation above. There is actually some difference, as he points out. If you listen to Keiva, who doesn't acknowledge the international differences or perspectives of others, you'll get little more than assumptions. He likes to respond to everything. Don't let him misguide your understanding of the language. Good luck here. 
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06/15/2002 4:44 PM
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I can't even post a simple "hello", without getting yelled at? Come now.
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#72890
06/15/2002 6:01 PM
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My people say that won is pronounced like my name.
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#72891
06/15/2002 6:14 PM
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I have a american speaker question for adam, but the queen is looking quite spiffy in her new outfit that I should be paying attention instead of asking the *proverbial unanswerable question.
Welcome back, juan.
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#72892
06/15/2002 6:32 PM
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yes, and one has to wonder about coincidences.. Like WO'N, won, Juan, and even Adam's interest in won, or is that WO'N, or Juan?
Sock puppet's can be transparent to more than one person. and its so easy to have your sock puppet feed you a line.. and together you can play games, isn't it so? oh, my how clever you are, when you talk to yourself. the conversations at your dinner table must be facinating!
Most of the sock puppets on the awad of late are pretty one dimentional. they don't pretend to be anything but gadflys, that buzz in and out, trying to annoy keiva.
but everytime that happens, there is, at the same time a sudden influx of new users, who come and post for the very first time! these user spring to life from foriegn countries, with cute little faux pas in their spelling, asking petty little questions.. they come complete with history, and arrive, oh, 10 to 15 minutes after a gadfly has successfully bitten keiva! its a pretty consistant pattern. Now, let me think? do i know anyone who's behavior can be identified by lies, deciet, and patterns?
think about it! Now, Adam, you did say your name was Adam, just what did you want to know about the word won?
i can tell you, its the opposite of lost.
Do you know the word loser? a loser is the one who didn't win. but the word also has a more general meaning. it means a sad, pitiful person, the kind that destroys the playground, gets banned, and then complains that he was banned, and when he gets let back in, has no one to play with, he makes up friends for himself. imaginary friends.. their the only kind a loser has.
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#72893
06/15/2002 7:20 PM
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Did I say something bad? What's your point, I don't get it? Could you tell me it straight. thanks
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06/15/2002 7:45 PM
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With all respect, ma'am, I am not adam, nor do I have the slightest idea who adam is. If I were creating doppelgangers, why use one for a post like adam's at the start of this thread? What would it gain me? Doppelganger-names like "equalizer" serve an obvious function in what we might call the "Great Debate" (there have been 17(!) of them there¹; indeed, that debate has been heavily infested with doppelgangers) -- but adam is not speaking in that matter. It speaks well of you that you are one of the few people (I count only two) who routinely has the courage to conduct the "Great Debate" under their regular screen-name. One admires the "courage of one's convictions", even if one disagrees with the convictions or tactics themselves. You are one who has had that courage. I am the other.² ¹ In the traditions of "archie": (1) archedbrow; (2) Annagraham; (3) arosebyanyname; (4) equalizer; (5) Pheonix; (6) PissandMoan; (7) RawNerve; (8) scorpionstings; (9) SickandTired; (10) Snoot; and, going back a bit farther in time: (11) debunker; (12) RumShotGiles; (13) MrSoHugeList; (14) GimletsHours; (15) Egotism Hurls; (16) MisterGhouls; (17) gizmoHustler² Of course, each of us doubtless suspects the other of also using doppelgangers in that Debate.
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06/15/2002 7:47 PM
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adam asks, Did I said something bad?
Nothing you did wrong, adam. You just happened to walk in at a time when people are suspicious and edgy.
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06/15/2002 7:48 PM
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I understand your concern, adam. It seems as if your inconsistant use/nonuse of contractions suggest you are *pulling our leg* about your inability to use, understand or hear the English language, but, then again, that's not what we speak here, anyway. It'll all be fine, don't worry. [edit]"equalizer" serve an obvious function Obvious to you, maybe.  why use one for a post like adam's at the start of this thread? Adam, it is *statements like this, which show a lack of respect for our intelligence made under the precept of "with all respect", that makes us a little "suspicious". [ps. I call them *statements because, obviously, that's their function )
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06/15/2002 7:55 PM
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adam, I see that you and I are on-line simultaneously. Could you please stay on-line for a few minutes, so that musick can verify the the two of us show up simultaneously on the "who's on-line" screen? That may help convince musick that you and I are indeed separate people.
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06/15/2002 8:20 PM
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hey musick, did you ever hear of a home network? or DSL lines? they have some great features i hear, 2 people with 2 computers can log on at the same time! and even more amazing, 1 person can log on two computers at the same time, would you believe it? why some one could be adam and keiva right at the same time!
and do you remember a user called AphonicRants? he log on before Keiva was banned, Oh, forgot, Aphonic Rants was Keiva's sock puppet, so i guess keiva just told a white one... and he has also used sock puppets..
thing is, piss and moan, and RawNerve, and equalizer, why they don't pretend to be anything but old timers hidding. but AphonicRant was a phony, and really got pissed when JHM outted him. he thought he was fooling everybody then too...
guess you can't teach an old dog new tricks, can you? and maybe sometime, even on the internet, someone does know a dog.
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06/15/2002 8:28 PM
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I don't know where you got the idea that I think you and adam are the same people. I'd be more apt to think you were juan, but.
Talk about "suspicious"... at least we are defining a word here.
Hey adam, suspicious is pronounced "sa - spi - shus".
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06/15/2002 8:35 PM
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Have we now gotten to the point that an innocent newcomer cannot make his maiden post without being attacked?"
[Post-edit regarding musick's response below: I speak of asserts attacks made by of-troy, not by musick; that's clear if you view in threaded mode.]
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#72901
06/15/2002 9:08 PM
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Adam, just since I know this is parbably coming to you in a "different form", I thought I'd make my intentions and sense of humor clear (for your sake)... as these are the words I used directed at you in my last few posts. I have a american speaker question for adam, but the queen is looking quite spiffy in her new outfit that I should be paying attention instead of asking the *proverbial unanswerable question. As I'm standing next to my girlfreind (the queen) on a warm summer day... I'm being tempted to distract myself from this conversation, as it holds little (and even less, now) appeal compared to the mini-skirt she is wearing. She was watching me type this. I understand your concern, adam. It seems as if your inconsistant use/nonuse of contractions suggest you are *pulling our leg* about your inability to use, understand or hear the English language, but, then again, that's not what we speak here, anyway. This is a pretty clear explaination of what *occurred, certainly not an attack. Adam, it is *statements like this, which show a lack of respect for our intelligence made under the precept of "with all respect", that makes us a little "suspicious". Again, this doesn't refer to anything adam said, but rather a simple description of my perspective, which by this time he/she deserved. (I'll bet it's a "he" ) Hey adam, suspicious is pronounced "sa - spi - shus". Although a bit "tounge-in-cheek, I seemed pretty helpful to me! I hope this whole thing was helpful for you too, Keiva. It seems like the kind of structure you're familiar with.
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#72902
06/16/2002 12:07 AM
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"More Light!"
- Goethe's last words
The Lone Haranguer
The Lone Haranguer
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06/16/2002 12:26 AM
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I am very sad to see AWADtalk look like a lowbrow
news group, with phonies and tricks, and very
little about words or language, and abuse of
newcomers.
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06/16/2002 12:41 AM
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what i did was to point out that keiva lied.
this is what he posted-- watch out, because he'll try to delete it: It speaks well of you that you are one of the few people (I count only two) who routinely has the courage to conduct the "Great Debate" under their regular screen-name. One admires the "courage of one's convictions", even if one disagrees with the convictions or tactics themselves.
You are one who has had that courage.
I am the other.²
(there followed a list of names, in white)
but I pointed out, the person known as Keiva has also been know, for certain, to post under the names AphonicRants and KeivaCarpal. He used the first of these name before he was banned, for flaming/flame wars.
he forced his way back into this forum by making implied threats to Anu Garg, the founder of AWAD.
Now, in one of his classic twists of the facts, he accuses me of being threatening. I guess, i am if you are threatened by the truth.
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06/16/2002 1:22 AM
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see http://wordsmith.org/board/showthreaded.pl?Cat=&Board=miscellany&Number=73229. There you go again, of-troy. Interrupting thread after thread with the same old complaint; not letting anyone discusss anything else. Edit: Of-troy's repetitive post, immediately below, simply proves my point once again.
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#72906
06/16/2002 1:23 AM
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the person know as Keiva, who recently posted on this thread, was banned, for flaming. he forced his way back into this forum by implied threats to Anu Garg, the founder of AWAD. this same person has also been know, for certain, to post under the names AphonicRants and KeivaCarpal.
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06/16/2002 1:30 AM
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Keiva, go away. You are not welcome here.
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#72908
06/16/2002 7:46 AM
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CzeϾ wszystkim!
Keiva poprosi³ mnie, abym napisa³ coœ po polsku.
Zaczynam rozumieæ co siê tu dzieje. Ten board jest jak wszystkie inne, ludzie tylko siê ze sob¹ k³óc¹, zamiast porozmawiaæ, podyskutowaæ na m¹dzrzejszy temat.
Napisa³em 16 czerwca 2002 godz. 10:40.
Hello everybody!
Keiva asked me to write something in Polish.
I beginig to realise what is happening here. This board is like all other ones, people are doing nothing but arguing, why don't you talk normally, disscus on more intelligent topic.
I wrote it 16th june 2002 10:40 am
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06/16/2002 9:44 AM
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06/16/2002 12:09 PM
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"I can tolerate anything except intolerance."
(This is from another thread, I believe Fisk quoted it.)
Is this irony? I still have a problem with this concept.
I know there was a thread started a long time ago about this but I do not know how to resurrect a thread so forgive me. I wish we could talk more about irony.
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06/16/2002 1:10 PM
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Go away, Keiva. You are not wanted here.
You raped my identity with your faux handle 'AphonicRants.'
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06/16/2002 4:23 PM
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Unlike 'MrSoHugeList'
or 'Egotism_Hurls'
or "go f**k yourself a new a**hole"
or spam attacks
or ... [you get the point]
As I said before:
When you start to flame, dear,
It's not me to blame, dear:
If you want a fight, you will get it.
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06/16/2002 4:32 PM
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the person know as Keiva, who recently posted on this thread, was banned, for flaming.
he forced his way back into this forum by implied threats. this same person has also been know, for certain, to post under the names AphonicRants and KeivaCarpal.
he just threated an other flame war, and implied, my telling the truth about his actions flaming. the truth is not a flame.
Go away Keiva, you are not wanted here.
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06/16/2002 4:36 PM
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I see that ASp has chosen to repeat the same thing in six separate threads.
There you go again, ASp, repeating verbatim your same old song. If you can't have your way, you'll interrupt to poison any other discussion on this board.
of-troy too, at least in this case. Their spam-attack on the board is on!
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06/16/2002 4:40 PM
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Keiva: go away. You are not welcome here.
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06/16/2002 5:19 PM
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06/16/2002 5:43 PM
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The person known as Keiva, who recently posted on this thread, was banned for flaming. He forced his way back into this forum by implied legal threats to Anu Garg, the founder of AWAD. This same person has also been known to post under the names AphonicRants, KeivaCarpal.
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06/16/2002 6:46 PM
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Wordwind, it is not I who is converting this board from a vehicle for words to a vehicle for spamming ridicule and invective. It is poisoning the board -- and it does not come from my mouth.
If you want the board to continue as nasty as now, then continue to post as you do above, and continue to interrupt others who are attempting to talk about words.
But if you want it to be a word-board, then make word-posts.
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06/16/2002 6:55 PM
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The person known as Keiva, who recently posted on this thread, was banned for flaming. He forced his way back into this forum by implied legal threats to Anu Garg, the founder of AWAD.
Telling the truth is not a flaming. The truth is not spam.
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Keiva: You are very much unwelcome here.
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