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well, its a 500 or so page book, with footnotes, and details.. and i have reduced it to a few paragraphs.. its an interesting read.. Ms french is better known for her fiction, in 1972 she had best seller with her book the woman's room and most of her fiction is really about how woman come to see that they have power, and how to use, but not abuse it... so her fiction is filled with the same ideas, played out in peoples lives..
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"Meahwhile, how do we determine what is right?"
Does anyone know if this meaning (analogous to "correct") predates the legal meaning, as in legal or constitutional rights? The answer would have some bearing on Modest's question.
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This is exactly the place for a philosophy thread
Thanks musick - et al - I guess I was just nervous about, um, being accused of posting where I shouldn't or starting a discussion I shouldn't....Old wound healing, I picked the scab, glad to see y'all rushing in with bandaids where I had feared to tread!
love to all,
mg
So....how DO we know what is "right"? My philosophy friend was talking about right behaviour, I think. Is this the "correct" version of "right"?
this also reminds me of the movie Clockwise, in which John Cleese's character gets hopelessly sidetracked en route to, um, I've forgotten where - deliver a speech at a boys' school, perhaps? Anyway, he keeps trying to direct people who are driving him places:
Cleese: Left.
Driver: Left?
Cleese: Right.
AAUGH!
Let us go in peace to love and serve the board.
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<<is that the "correct" version of "right"?>>
It's certainly the version of "right" as "correct." Was your friend suggesting that legal/"human" rights -- or such rights per se -- were also things by virture of their being agreed on?
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I don't think he was thinking of rights, thus I doubt he was thinking of things. I think he was thinking of the general concept of right.
F'rinstance, how do we know that killing someone is wrong? how do we know that it is right NOT to kill someone? (is perhaps a more apt way of putting it)
I suppose this is the right that comes from our reason and (supposedly) sets us apart from the dumb beasts. (and who said they were dumb, anyway, just because they don't speak a human language!)
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"...the general concept of right..." (Modest)
Then he was talking about ethics and not about rights per se -- unless he was talking about, e.g. an (inalienable) right to life which would wronged by murder.
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Dear MG: Does a lion have a right to eat a lamb?
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Ooof, I have some trouble following this type of philosophical discussion. My mind tries to wrap itself around an answer and I just can't get it out properly.
I think we know what is right or wrong when we realize that we would or wouldn't want to happen to us. For example, when a child gets a toy taken away from him, he feels upset. He then know that taking a toy away from somebody else will make them feel upset. We tell the child it is wrong to take a toy away and he associates making a person feel bad as being wrong.
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Bill, does a human have a right to eat a chicken. Ahhhh.
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Dear MG: Does a lion have a right to eat a lamb?
Dear Bill: Only if I don't get to the lamb first. Mmmmmmm.
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