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#71531 05/28/02 11:31 PM
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thanks Belmarduke, but I'm wondering whether meringue breaks down into interesting components of meaning.

I prefer meringue on pineapple pie!! And chocolate!

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"More often than not, however, the dates of first record for foreign words borrowed into
English serve to confirm and support the etymology given by the previous editions of the
Dictionary. Take the word meringue, for instance. Despite extensive searches for earlier
examples of the word in English, our first record still comes from the 1706 edition of
Phillips's New World of Words, where it is identified as a word of French origin. The
Second Edition of the OED accordingly gives an etymology from French meringue, but can
find no evidence for its use in French before 1739. Thanks to TLF, we can now trace the
French word back to a cookbook of 1691, nearly twenty years before the first attestation in
English. The further etymology of the word remains as obscure to us as it was to Murray's
team, but we can at least supply a chronology to confirm that the word (and presumably the
confection) came to us from the French."


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A Charlestonian friend of ours, a real feminist, named her boat Anne Bonny, probably the most famous female pirate. Google will give you info on her.


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In reply to:

Blackbeard's real name was Edward Teach


And Bluebeard's real name was Gilles de Rais, friend of Joan of Arc's turned serial killer of children. If you want to know more google his name. It is not pleasant reading.

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I prefer meringue on pineapple pie!! And chocolate!

Chocolate, on pineapple pie????



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female pirates

Ahoy, BobY! So right you are, matey! Anne Bonny and her even better known compatriot, Mary Read, actually wound up on the same pirate ship disguised as men (sailors and seamen of the day, even pirates, would have no women aboard ship...bad luck, pure and simple!) But in those days people didn't see other people nekked much, so the gender masquerade was not too difficult (even into the 19th century they found women disuised as men among the battlefield dead during the Civil war (US), but that's a whole nother story). You see, I've been telling these piratey tales as a children's storyteller for several years now, so I could fill the board ("no, don't!"...I hear ya!) So suffice it to say the womanly pirates are sure worth lookin' up for their exploits. Anne Bonny was a mere adolescent, so she had another life comin' after piratin'. Mary Read wasn't as fortunate. Both ladies held the day on their final battle with a British man-o-war as the men cowered in the hold. In fact, Mary became so incensed with their lack of bravery that she fired wrathfully into the hold, killing and wounding several of her pirate mates. But just before the hangin' of her beloved Capt. Calico Jack Rackam, Anne Bonny said to him, "Well, Jack, you know how I care for ya...but if ya had come up and fought like a man, you wouldn't have to be hanged like a dog!"
Wimmin (sigh)...you can't live with 'em, and...well...

BTW...another intriguing, and fierce, lady pirate from an earlier era was Grace O'Malley, an Irish pirate who preyed the coast of of Europe in the 1500s. Also known as Granuaile, and The Pirate Queen of Connacht, she was so mean that legend has it that after her own son fell overboard from a small skiff and tried to climb back on she cut off his hands and let him drown, 'cause she was disgraced that an O'Malley had lost his sea-legs and stumbled overboard.


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