the expression 'knockdown and dirty fight'

also see this (brought up thro' another string!)

`I don't know what you mean by "glory,"' Alice said.

Humpty Dumpty smiled contemptuously. `Of course you don't--
till I tell you. I meant "there's a nice knock-down argument for
you!"'

`But "glory" doesn't mean "a nice knock-down argument,"' Alice
objected.

`When _I_ use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful
tone, `it means just what I choose it to mean--neither more nor
less.'