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#69661 05/14/2002 9:10 PM
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How did we miss "houri" : the ultimate Arabian beautiful young woman dwelling in Paradise?


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What a pity "salaam" and "shalom" are not exchanged more often.


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I thought "nargile" = waterpipe might be Arabic, but it is Persian.


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Dear Max: a greater pity that that lady had suffered so much from that cultural conflict. I exchanged many PMs with her, and admire her, though recognizing that the board was not a suitable place for venting her feelings.


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one person was deeply offended by my closing a post with "salaam alaikum" [and] express[ed] her contempt for the language

De mortuis nil nisi bonum, perhaps, max? All I see at in the discussion is light-hearted banter, but even if your recall is correct, I'd think de mortuis would apply.


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Dear God, AR: are you telling me Shoshannah is dead? I got e-mail from her only a short time ago. What happened?


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I speak figuratively, dr. bill, in the sense that she's dead to this board. But I imagine you knew that mid-thread would hardly be the place for a literal obituary, and that I am here making a foolishly-literal response to a comment you meant as wordplay.


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Dear AR: I am relieved. As I said, I very much liked and admired Shoshannah.


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Another list of words borrowed from Arabic. Hard to tell how many duplicates. Here is ;URL to this site, which gives many countries from which words have been borrowed. Well worth browsing:

http://www.krysstal.com/borrow.html


admiral, albatross, alchemy, alcohol, alcove (recess for a bed), alfalfa, algebra (reunion of broken
parts), algorithm, alkali, amber, amulet, aniline, antimony, arsenal, artichoke, assassin, average
(equitable distribution of losses due to damaged goods), ayatollah, azimuth, benzene (from Java -
from a resin in an Asian tree) calibre (mould for casting metal), carat (weight of four grains), caraway,
cipher, coffee, cork (bark), cotton, drub (beat), elixir, fakir, fellah (peasant), fez (named after its city
of origin in Morocco), gala, garbage, garble, gazelle, genie, giraffe, goul (the same root as Algol),
hashish, harem, hazard, henna, kismet (fate), lackey (footman), lime, loofah, lute, magazine,
marzipan, mask (buffoon), mattress, minaret, mohair, monkey, monsoon (season), mosque, myrrh,
nadir, pancreas, racket (for ball games - palm of hand), ream (bundle), safari, Sahara (desert),
saffron, sahib (friend), satin (named after its city of origin in China), sequin (coin), sheikh (old man),
sherbet, sheriff (noble), sofa, soda (headache - from plant used as a remedy), sultan, syrup (drink),
tabby (from a district in Baghdad where striped cloth was made), talisman, tamarind (Indian date),
tariff, wadi (dry river), yashmak (veil), zenith (pass over the head), zero, zircon




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Bill:

I hate it when this happens. Along comes a list like this, and one, just one, of the words shouldn't be included, and it makes me question everything in the list. Sheriff in the sense of a county officer is not from Arabic, according to my dictionary. So I looked at some of the other words.

Carat is also suspect, since it came to us through Arabic from Greek. It is akin to keratin, believe it or not.

My dictionary does not substantiate either garbage or garble as being derived from Arabic. I also looked in OED. Nothing there about Arabic either.

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Dear TEd: Thanks for your bits of research. I think that is one of the most important contributions to the board, to point out errors in a scholarly way.

I just thought of "catafalque", the structure supporting coffin at funeral. i thought it might be arabic, but it is not.


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