Strange, but as i read your post, Jackie, i realized, i associate the Derby with Kentucky, but Louisville with baseball bats!

and this is at least the second year its come up, i remember last year we discussed the derby, (and Jackie), the Preakness (and Bob Y) and the Belmont stakes (and me). while Belmont park is fairly close to me, i have no interest in horses or horse racing. i know there are many activities here too, before the race, but i never particapate in any of them.. NY has enough going on, that its easy for something like a big race to get lost in the shuffle.