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We used to have podiatrist and paediatrician, but podiatrists decided it was all too confusing, and changed to being known as chiropodists.As synchronicity would have it, I was on the site of the NSW Podiatry Association the other day.  I quote: "The word "podiatry" changed from "chiropody" in the late 70s, and helped overcome the confusion with chiropractic. The word "podiatry" stems from the Greek podis (foot) and iatria (healing/physician)." http://www.podiatry.asn.au/Foot_Health_Page.htm Seems foot doctors are fated to confusion...   
 
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04/30/2002 3:04 PM
  
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Podiatrists treat feet. Chiropodists treat feet and hands, says my dictionary. And if you are really gullible, see a chiropractor: 5< CHIRO3 + Gr praktikos, practical: see PRACTICE6 the science and art of restoring or maintaining health, practiced by a licensed professional, based on the theory that disease is caused by interference with nerve function, and employing manipulation of the body joints, esp. of the spine, to restore normal nerve function  chi4ro[prac#tor  n.
 
 
  
 
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#67461
04/30/2002 4:16 PM
  
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bel,
  The link is too long for me to give here, so I have copied the piece:
  "More victims of press hysteria 
  The news of the World's naming and shaming campaign over paedophiles last month is continuing to bring vigilante attacks against innocent people. The hysterical climate created by Rupert Murdoch's rag lay behind last week's attack on Yvette Cloete, a 42 year old doctor in Newport, South Wales. 
  She is a PAEDIATRICIAN at the Royal Gwent Hospital. Her home was attacked by people who had read that as a PAEDOPHILE. Days later a father and his three children escaped an arson attack on their home in Norwich in an incident the local police say is linked to the News of the World campaign. 
  The family was living in a flat which used to be occupied by a convicted sex offender. BBC radio also reported an attack on a young man in Nottingham who has learning difficulties. There was no apology from News of the World editor Rebekah Wade on Sunday for the mayhem she has helped to unleash." 
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#67462
04/30/2002 4:25 PM
  
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dxb, Try Max's great discovery,  http://makeashorterlink.com/. Plug in your long link there, and it will give you a shorter one that you can post here. I'd love to see the original article. thanks!  
 
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#67463
04/30/2002 9:40 PM
  
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05/01/2002 4:15 PM
  
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slydexic standards that was astonishingly inetp Sweet Maxie, you are so funny!  Confused or not, you are one super guy!  That was also a good one, slipping in "Misery"--the leg cut-off story, right?--on a pod-...ped-...chiro-...oh heck, foot thread!
 
  
 
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05/01/2002 11:20 PM
  
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05/01/2002 11:32 PM
  
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that was an oblique welcome to the new member, based on her nameOops!     Merci, she said humbly.  
 
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05/02/2002 2:58 AM
  
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Omigosh, it's another new person ... how fantastic this is - all this new talent!   WELCOME  !  
  Glad you're with us, katybug - cute name!  
 
  
 
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#67468
05/07/2002 10:55 PM
  
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I have seen these terms confused:
  magenta/placenta parody/parity
  And in a more technical area, take care to distinguish:
  prison/jail parole/probation prosecution/civil claim
 
  
 
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05/07/2002 11:03 PM
  
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The logo for the Michigan Podiatrists' Association is a caduceus superimposed on a foot.  The image always made me laugh, which was not a good thing when I was in private practice and the association was a client.     
 
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05/08/2002 4:36 AM
  
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I got the others, Sparteye, but what distinction are you making between prison and jail?
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05/08/2002 8:52 AM
  
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I regularly got my mouth twisted around on 'conSERVation' and conVERSation' a few years ago - caused no end of laughter...
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05/08/2002 12:06 PM
  
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I don't know about Michigan, Bingley, but in NY jail is local (i.e., Riker's Island in NYC) and is used for terms under one year.   If you are sentenced to a term over one year, you go to a state prison.  (Sing Sing is the well known one, but it a very high security one.. the more common prison is somewhere else.. way, way up state.) i am lucky, and don't have any familiarity with prisons.. and only know about jail from civic's class.
  time servered in jail (awaiting/during the trial) can be applied to your prison term.  
 
  
 
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05/09/2002 12:00 AM
  
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Like of troy said, Bingley.  "Jail" is a facility run by a local authority to incarcerate someone for a short term.  In Michigan, a jail is owned by a city or county, and a sentence of a year or less may be served in a jail.  Jails also serve to hold persons before sentencing, whether pending trial without bail or after conviction but before imposition of the sentence.  "Prison" refers to a state-run facility, and is used for prisoners sentenced to longer terms.
 
  
 
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05/09/2002 1:20 AM
  
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 "Prison" refers to a state*  -run facility, and is used for prisoners sentenced to longer terms.  * Or federal gov't.
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
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05/09/2002 7:02 AM
  
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Interesting. I wasn't aware of a distinction between the words gaol and prison here.
  Gaol is rarely used, googling the term only gives historic sites. 
 
  
 
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05/09/2002 11:44 AM
  
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In Canada, penitentiary is the word for federal institutions (sentences longer than 2 years) With a sentence of 2 years less a day, you end up in the provincial system
 
  
 
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The only other names that I can find are- young offender institutions, special hospitals, regional secure units and prison psychiatric units - so we don;t seem to have a word that separates those on short sentences from those on long sentences, although there are various shades of prisons. Mybe it is just because we don't have a separate state and federal legal system. Whilst looking around for information, I found the following comments which I had not appreciated before. “The U.S. has both the largest prison population and the highest rate of incarceration in the world, including China and Russia. The U.S. incarcerates people at a rate more than 15 times that of Japan, and its prison population is more than eight times that of Italy, France, the UK, Spain, and Australia combined."
  “No other democracy besides the US. disenfranchises convicted offenders for life. Many democratic nations, including Denmark, France, Israel and Poland, permit prisoners to vote as well.”http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Prison_System/Prison_System.html 
 
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05/09/2002 2:11 PM
  
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and NYS is one of the worst offenders!  back in the 60's the rockerfeller drug laws, with mandated sentencing time, has resulted in horror stories.. Yesterday's NYTimes had the story of a 78 year woman, sentence to a 20 year term in her 60's.. for a first offences. she was poor, and didn't have an education.  an accident broke her hip.. she had no health coverage.. unable to get work, with out enought money to live on, she became, at age 60, a drug dealer.. she was convicted on her first offence, but since she had more than 1 ounce of drugs, 20 years, no appeals, no early release, nothing.. 
  I not saying we should go easy on drug dealers, and in many ways, its been good for her, better food, housing and medical care, eduaction, and other activites.  but in 3 years, she'll be 81, homeless, no social security, no health care (she'll have to get welfare and medicade) in terms of punitive effect, one or two years would have been just as effective.  
  NYS prisions are welfare for the middle class.  built in rural areas, they are a source of jobs, and keep small towns viable.. 
  a prison needs guards, and kitchen staff, and mechanics, and cars/transport, it need administrative staff, and doctors, and all sorts of folk.  and all these folks need houses, and doctors, and dentist, and car dealers, contractors, schools, etc.) so there is no ground swell to change the law! It is embarassing to thinking people.
 
  
 
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To raze and to raise, two homonyms that are antonyms.
 
 
 
  
 
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