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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread Page 2 of 2 1 2 Re: Shakespeare #67062 04/28/2002 3:35 PM Joined: Nov 2000 Posts: 819 Portland,Oregon, USA Geoff old hand Geoff old hand Joined: Nov 2000 Posts: 819 Portland,Oregon, USA to paraphrase Dorothy Parker "a human is like a teabag - you never know how strong they can be until you see them in hot water." Very good, SM! Parker is one of my favorite wits! Indeed, I quoted her elsewhere a couple of days ago. I'm very glad to see you on here; you've introduced some really good stuff to this board! Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter consumer/customer #67063 04/28/2002 3:44 PM Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 771 Portland, Oregon Fiberbabe old hand Fiberbabe old hand Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 771 Portland, Oregon ...the world seems so steeped in egoistic corporate power and the de-selfing of the common person (as seen in the term "consumer" usurping the place and implicit rights of "customer") that I go overboard with exaggeration at times. Geoff, just this morning I finished reading Fast Food Nation ~ if any reader finds even *half* of Schlosser's case plausible, you're not exaggerating. It's not particularly word-related, but if anyone else has read it, I would welcome discussion of the topics via PM. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Shakespeare #67064 05/06/2002 12:22 PM Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 148 Melbourne, Aus alexis member alexis member Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 148 Melbourne, Aus And getting back to the whole Who-the-heck-is-Shakespeare thing, there's also the point that basically none of the extant copies of the plays were actually "written" - by hand - by their purported author; many were written after Bill died, almost certainly by the actors who played the parts. So if Hamlet doesn't remember Polonius' lines very well... or Nurse doesn't remember Romeo's lines... we certainly can't claim to have 'authoritative' versions. And how could we, anyway? Playwrights at the time didn't publish their plays - they wrote for their company, shaping characters for actors, and having their words regularly changed in rehearsal and performance. The whole idea of a static text would have been foreign; it's quite a modernist idea, as far as I can tell (but don't get me onto Eliot's Wasteland...). And does it matter? Nah. I still get a kick out of Lady Macbeth and the various fools, so who really cares who gets the credit? It's just easier to attribute to a single body... alexis =] Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Page 2 of 2 1 2 Moderated by  Jackie  Hop To General Topics ------  Information and announcements  Q&A about words  Wordplay and fun  Words and languages in schools  Miscellany  Weekly Themes  Looking for (writers, speakers,... (Old) Weekly themes. (have been... ------  Words from medicine  Beheading words  Meta-words  Words from classical mythology  Animal Safari  Words with unusual etymologies  Eponyms or words derived from p...  Loanwords from German  English as a global language Print Thread Switch to Threaded Mode Show Likes Link Copied to Clipboard View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Website Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary

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