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#65861
04/19/2002 11:56 AM
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Funny, the first thing that popped into my mind was Garcia Lorca's play La Casa de Bernarda Alba - if I recall correctly, a big deal was made over the paleness of her skin, although alba translates from Spanish to dawn / daybreak. 
 Maybe I'm confusing FGL with Gabriel Garcia Marquez or Isabel Allende on the pale skin business... Clara in La Casa de los Espiritus was exceedingly porcelain, I remember that for sure!
 
 
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#65862
04/19/2002 12:18 PM
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Vangelis has a 'song' called Albedo 0.39 (that's the albedo of a certain planet).
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#65863
04/19/2002 1:44 PM
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Does alb mean white, in some language?
 As in the poetic name Albion, meaning England.
 I believe this name traces from the War of the Roses (whites and reds); can anyone confirm?
 Shakespeare:
 From worthy Edward, King of Albion (King Henry VI, Part iii Act 3, Scene 3)
 In that nook-shotten isle of Albion, (King Henry V Act 3, Scene 5)
 Then shall the realm of Albion / Come to great confusion (King Lear, Act 3, Scene 2)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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#65864
04/19/2002 2:00 PM
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Speaking of Vitamin C content of orange peel albedo, wow told me that the reason officers in English navy didn't get scurvy when the men did was because they had marmalade and the crew did not. A fleet exploring the Pacific in mid seveteen hundreds had something like a thousand deaths from scurvy. The commander thought the problem was poor hygiene!
 
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#65865
04/19/2002 2:16 PM
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I'd read something somewhere about some famous person and saurkraut, with the same gist - the sailors ate saurkraut and didn't get scurvy.  (But it sure must've smelled some awful on that ship!)
 
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#65866
04/19/2002 2:18 PM
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So, the question is: To eat the fruit of the orange or its zest? Vitamin C-wise, that is...
 And, as far as sauerkraut goes, wow!, another reason to eat it! Yum!
 
 PS: To think this began as a thread on counterclockwise movement...and it has permutated into a food thread! (Speaking of, how many people stir their pudding counterclockwise in the northern hemisphere? And how many stir it clockwise in the southern? Oops! Wrong thread! this one began on intelligence and has permutated into a food thread!)
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#65867
04/19/2002 2:29 PM
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permutated into a food thread!)Careful there, WW.  Let's make sure to call it a food word thread !    |  |  |  
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#65868
04/19/2002 2:31 PM
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also, Limes are lower in vit. C than oranages..  they also gave rise to english sailors (and all english men) being called limies
 i don't know which sailors ate kraut, but yes, cabbage is an other vit. C power house.. a steady diet of potatoes and cabbage and some milk will provide you with a complete (all required vit. and amino acids) diet.
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#65869
04/19/2002 3:17 PM
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I was just reading about that in Sobel's Longitude last week.
 
 
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#65870
04/19/2002 3:27 PM
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Abd the saddest thing of all is that the cure for scurvy was learned by Jacques Cartier in 1554 (I think) from  a young Indian whom he had taken to France and back. But having been recorded in French, the British lost thousands of lives needlessly. (the Indian cure was a tea made from spruce tips.)
 
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#65871
04/19/2002 3:42 PM
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(the Indian cure was a tea made from spruce tips.)
 ... Better be careful not to get them confused with hemlock tips --or was it the fruit of the hemlock that did Socrates in? Edit: Just in from Google:Socrates' execution requires that he drink a cup of hemlock. Found in Europe and parts of Asia, hemlock is a poisonous herb that looks a great deal like parsley. You would not, however, want this "fool's-parsley" dressing the side of your dinner plate! http://socrates.clarke.edu/aplg0503.htm ...never mind. |  |  |  
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