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#65550 04/15/2002 8:52 PM
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Another accidental site, possibly occasionally of use to a few forgetful types like me.

http://englishplus.com/grammar/contents.htm


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merci Bill


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Seems a pretty good site - no bells and whistles - that's how we like'em. I checked up sentence fragments (since I had "I'm just saying." on my mind) and it offers this exception:


Sometimes in conversation only sentence fragments make sense.

OK, if you are recording a conversation, otherwise incorrect:
She asked, "Why did you watch that baseball game?"
"Because we are baseball fans."



I think there are probably at least a handful of other uses which, although tarred with the brush of fragmentization, I'd 'okay' [supporting my age bracket -e].
Purists may withe and shudder at such non-sentences, but if verbally they're quicker and just as understandable, then why not. What say the AWAD-Boarders?


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Dear belligerentyouth: For a few years my boss was a native German speaker, who had become relatively fluent in English. I drove him crazy with elliptical sentence fragments.


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#65555 04/16/2002 6:45 AM
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Dear by,

It seems to me that language is all about communication, and provided the short cuts don't breed unintended ambiguity, then the shorter the wording the more efficient the communication.

Have you noticed that in multi-lingual instructions, for cameras, toasters etc., the English section is always the shortest. That seems to imply that English is either a more efficient communication tool than other languages or it is less precise and leaves more to be interpreted from context. Any views?

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> English is either a more efficient communication tool than other languages or it is less precise and leaves more to be interpreted from context.

Well certainly not the former! I can't speak for languages per se, but German is IMHO almost always more concise and precise - confirming the latter. To believe that English is our 'lingua-franca' because of any ways in which English is superior to other languages would be very arrogant, I think. The fact that English is seen as 'less precise' should be seen directly in the context of its wide spread use and abuse throughout the world today.

aside: what's in the name?


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Word automatically changes SLT to sit!

Give him a birthday present (or equivalent occasion) (or no occasion at all if that's the kind of family you are) and tell him that the spelling- and grammar-correcting functions of Word are under the user's control and can be turned on or off as desired !



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