#65426
04/13/2002 11:20 PM
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Long ago, on one of the PBS specials, perhaps The Story of English-- the commentator stated, "Glammor, is a misspelling of Grammer" and went on to say grammar, like grammar school, is of language and learning (ie, being literate.) but, grammer, goes back to the root of Gram (1/28 of an ounce) "what is written" (the weight of ink on the paper!)
how funny!
and gramercy (which i was sure was related..) has nothing to to do with grammar.. it, like charing cross, is a coruption of french, grand merci, (archaic for thank you very much!)
just though every one would enjoy that....
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#65427
04/14/2002 1:02 AM
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#65428
04/14/2002 4:18 PM
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t might be good to remember the etymology of the word "glamour." It comes
from the Scottish/Celtic word "glammer," which means to cast a spell or an ...
Etymology - grammer of words. Solladigaram deals with grammer of words. It discusses
gender, person,number,case and other infections, the different parts of ...
" but, grammer, goes back to the root
of Gram (1/28 of an ounce) "what is written" (the weight of ink on the paper!) "
Dear of troy: Since the gram weight was part of the metrical system developed during French Revolution, I do not think it could be related to 'grammer'.
http://www.visalakshinityanand.com/tholkapiam.html
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#65429
04/14/2002 11:59 PM
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Here's something from OneLook:
1 entry found for grammer.
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grammer, IN Zip code(s): 47236
and...
Definitions of Grammer:
name: A surname (rare: 1 in 50000 families; popularity rank in the U.S.: #5917)
That's it for OneLook--two sources. I find it pretty amazing that one in 50,000 families in the US is named Grammer. I must live a sheltered life...yeah, yeah, I read it's rare, but really...
Best regards,
Wordwondering
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#65430
04/15/2002 1:48 AM
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Kelsey Grammer comes to mind..
didn't realize it was that rare..
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#65431
04/15/2002 11:35 AM
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http://www.anywho.com, an on-line phone directory, lists 15 "Grammer's" in the state of New York.
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#65432
04/15/2002 12:25 PM
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Only 15 Grammers in New York state ? Where are the missing Grammers? There must be a hot-bed of Grammers somewhere. I in 50,000 translates to 5,750 Grammers in the states. New York State 15
Grammer, Ind 26
Kelsey Grammer 1 This board can account for only 42 Grammers. 5,708 Grammers have been lost. Anybody check Arkansas? 
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#65433
04/15/2002 12:35 PM
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5,708 Grammers have been lost.
I think it's another cased of inflated figures... An influential Grammer somewhere ...
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#65434
04/15/2002 1:36 PM
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Grammer might be a made up name.
my ex's family had a made up family name: SIAS.. it was shortened from the original. Sias is not a common name, and there is a great deal of evidence, that all of the Sias's in US are related to original, a man who married a Mayflower passenger, (she was a child at the time of the crossing, he came later)-- several volumes on The Sias Family in America have all the boring details
(maybe Dr Bill, who has an interest in geneolgy might find in enjoyable reading, I don't. i know about, because of a family connection.)
the point is, most of Grammer's might be congretated in one or two states.. where the Grammer clan first started.
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#65435
04/15/2002 5:17 PM
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Since the gram weight was part of the metrical system developed during French Revolution, I do not think it could be related to 'grammer'.Font of knowledge that she is, I believe helen has gotten the connection backwards here. The root of grammar is from the Greek gramma meaning letter. http://www.bartleby.com/61/77/G0217700.htmlThe word shifted in meaning to mean a small thing and it is from this meaning that the SI took its basic unit of mass. http://www.bartleby.com/61/75/G0217500.html
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#65436
04/15/2002 6:11 PM
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Thank, falage, i was at home when i posted, the board was so slow, but my connection was worse, and AOL dropped me -sevice disconnect..
yes, gram* is a IE root, and the metric gram is a new use of an old word...
if i get a chance, i pop over to bartelby's, and get some info on the IE root.. like gen-- which pops up in gender, gentile, and a host of other words, gram looks like an interesting root.
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