#63498
04/03/2002 4:04 AM
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My 99th post: I would like to know people's PERSONAL take on the difference between being naked, and being nude (ie, not what their fave dictionary says, but their own linguistic explanation). And if anyone is curious enough to know WHY I'm so interested in this, I will make the explanatory post my 100th!  
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#63499
04/03/2002 4:09 AM
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hmmmmm ... could this tie in with your recently-posted interest in Wordpalooza!, and your profile indicating a penchant for skinny-dipping?
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#63500
04/03/2002 4:13 AM
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I'm trying to concoct a response here that won't make me sound too unangelic!
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#63501
04/03/2002 4:26 AM
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Okay, I'm dying to go to bed with a MEMBER at last! (it's been soooooo looooong  ) Here's the explanation - lessee what people think: In my profile I list my occupation as "wretched unemployed person" - well, that should really read "wretched UNDERemployed person." I work, sporadically and part-time, as a NUDE MODEL! TA-DA! So I'm very curious to find out what people's personal ideas about nude and naked are. Me, I'm nude when I'm working or at a nude beach; the rest of the time if I'm not sporting clothes, I reckon I'm naked. Nude, I feel safe; naked, I feel an element of danger....
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#63502
04/03/2002 4:31 AM
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Congratulations on your rhabdo-promotion! Tonight you will go to bed with a member to your name. But remember ... The sensuous modern woman, while she doesn't think the size of a man's orgasm is important, does insist on multiple penises.http://www.compu-diva.com/IvoryGates/quotes.htm
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#63503
04/03/2002 4:33 AM
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A bit, unenthusiastically, I congratulate you on your new Member. Seriously, congratulations, MG, wonderful to have more Members here! Looks like I'm Addicted to this place!
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#63504
04/03/2002 4:36 AM
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To scoop from the newest song thread I would like to borrow from Angel's post and rewrite a little bit of a song:
Might as well face it, you're addicted to AWAD!
(with apologies to Robert Palmer! or whoever wrote the durn song for him!)
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#63505
04/03/2002 4:37 AM
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A double-promotion???!!!! Is everything rising here?
Congrats, oh heavenly one! In celebration, are your perhaps planning to replace your trusty, never dusty websters with a [drumroll] nud-ictionary?
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#63506
04/03/2002 4:45 AM
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modestgoddess, after your shocking  post, I'm calling you immodestgoddess!
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#63507
04/03/2002 12:50 PM
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So I'm very curious to find out what people's personal ideas about nude and naked are. Me, I'm nude when I'm
working or at a nude beach; the rest of the time if I'm not sporting clothes, I reckon I'm naked. Nude, I feel
safe; naked, I feel an element of danger....Does that mean you were naked when you wrote this and you like to visit AWAD in the nude?  Congrats on your membership!I only use nude to describe a state of undress. Naked can be used, as you said, to emphasise an element of danger or of undress by duress - stripped naked or naked truth. Nude also has a much warmer sound to it but then again, it is French. Naked? Harsh, menacing. You have to sneer to pronounce it.
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#63508
04/03/2002 2:50 PM
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Naked came I into this vale of tears. Immediately I was diapered, and never allowed to be nude in public.
No nudes is good nudes was the motto. I never escaped cottontail status. And having had a malignant melanoma removed, I am forbidden to sunbathe. It's a cruel world.
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#63509
04/03/2002 3:10 PM
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Congratulations Ms Godiva on your fivescore.
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#63510
04/03/2002 3:11 PM
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Congratulations Ms Godiva on your fivescore.
All members please stand to attention....
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#63511
04/03/2002 3:56 PM
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I took a drawing class my senior year at UNC Chapel Hill. The art professor told me of a former model who used to come to class, and he would be completely undressed except for a pair of socks or a hat or something like that. The professor summed it up by saying "Now when you have no clothes on at all, that's nude, but when you're wearing just a pair of socks, now that's naked!"
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#63512
04/03/2002 4:56 PM
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"Now when you have no clothes on at all, that's nude, but when you're wearing just a pair of socks, now that's naked!"
Harry Belefonte, Zombie Jamboree:
I goin’ talk to Miss Brigit Bardot
And tell her miss Bardot take it slow
All the men think they're Casanova
When they see that she’s barefoot all over
Even old men out in Topeka
Find their hearts getting weaker and weaker
So I goin’ to ask her for your sake and mine
At least to wear her earrings part of the time.
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#63513
04/03/2002 5:18 PM
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Hmmmmm.....Then I guess I spend most of my time naked, cos I never removes my earrings.... Thanks for the congrats on my status. All members standing to attention: now THAT'S what I like to see! 
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#63514
04/03/2002 5:26 PM
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Which reminds me.....the modelling discussion board, to which I also belong, has a very interesting (and veeeeery looooong) thread about male models getting an erection while posing. I'd always thought that that was taboo (indeed, the word "taboo" is in the title of the thread), but apparently quite a few drawing groups request that of their male models on occasion. Interesting.....The models who were talking about this were saying that that can be the most difficult part of the pose to hold (as 'twere!) - as it requires some mental effort....! For anyone who's interested, here's the link: http://forums.delphiforums.com/fdg/messages/?usg=1217.1
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#63515
04/03/2002 5:58 PM
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Angel, I just noticed, you've become an ~***Addict***~. Why I declare, you are more modest than the goddess. Besides, you out rank her. Go congratulate her and then tell that curvaceous, beautiful, naked, new, ***Member*** to go put on some clothes. That sort of behavior might be condoned in the wilds of Canada, but I'm afraid it would be continuing source of embarrassment for the male members of this board. Speaking for myself, of course.
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#63516
04/03/2002 7:43 PM
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Why, thank you very much, dear, sweet, Milum. But somehow I find it very difficult to picture you embarrassed in Miss MG's presence, clothed or unclothed! Uh...her, not you!
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#63517
04/03/2002 8:26 PM
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Would you-all PLEASE move this thread out of this category???
There are people who read Q&A only, looking for real discussions about language. I have one person in particular in mind, and if we lose him we will ALL be the worse for it!
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#63518
04/03/2002 9:06 PM
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I'm not saying nothin' about a dishonorable discharge for failure to obey orders. Nothin', you hear me, nothin'.
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#63520
04/04/2002 3:20 AM
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Wade a minnit (and I wasn't going to browse the board tonight - need....sleeeep......) - I say this post IS about language. I asked for people's personal (not dictionary) definitions of nude and naked. Last I checked, both them is words. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the tag line under the Q&A title actually says, "Got a question about a word? post it here." Well, I got the question I posted about TWO words - naked and nude. And I am genuinely interested in people's answers. Eh, so we got a little sidetracked in all the Angelic excitement of addiction, and the journey into member. So sue us. Back to them words: Really, I'm curious to know how people define these for themselves - or what people think of when they hear each. There have been some interesting (to me, anyway) posts on this subject here. I don't see the need to move it to Miscellany. Them as wants to be jolly and rude can go to Keiva's alternate post (I'll be popping in there too, I luuuurrve jolly and rude!) but this IS SO a language thread, and I beg people who have genuine responses to the original question, to post 'em HERE. And Jackie - I understand your concern with keeping the board compartmentalised, but please, if you're thinking what I've said above don't fit Q&A - just don't visit this thread here anymore. Edit PS: There are other threads in this category that actually aren't about words, per se. Is someone going to shoo all of them into Miscellany or can we all just relax a little?
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#63521
04/04/2002 3:32 AM
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I'm sure that what bothered Jackie was the first several messages where three of you had a nice chat about members -- that's the sort of thing we've worked diligently over time to limit in Q&A. it's covered in the FAQ. we have gotten lax of late, but I guess this one tipped the scale for her.
-joe (just the FAQs) friday
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#63522
04/04/2002 3:42 AM
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As a matter of fact, mg, with the exception of this: "So I'm very curious to find out what people's personal ideas about nude and naked are. Me, I'm nude when I'm working or at a nude beach; the rest of the time if I'm not sporting clothes, I reckon I'm naked. Nude, I feel safe; naked, I feel an element of danger...." and your originating post, it is my opinion that none of your posts in this thread belong anywhere in AWADtalk.
Also-- it was not on behalf of myself that I asked that this thread be moved. Nor was it I who originally suggested keeping Q&A reserved for serious language discussion. But the people I am thinking of are not able to be here just now, and so I made that post in their stead, really. Yes, there have been a great many non-language posts here lately. I am not an enforcer. No one here can be. I felt a need to post a reminder, is all. If most of the group wish to throw out that agreement, or if individuals continue to ignore it, then so be it. I have no personal stake, either way--other than the sadness I'm sure to feel if we lose people.
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#63523
04/04/2002 11:43 AM
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>> it is my opinion that none of your posts in this thread belong anywhere in AWADtalk. A bit of Gilbert and Sullivan's Mikado may perhaps enlighten us and lighten our spirit? (MIDI: http://math.boisestate.edu/gas/mikado/html/so_please_you.html) the young gals: So please you, Sir, we much regret
If we have failed in etiquette
Towards a man of rank so high--
We shall know better by and by.
But youth, of course, must have its fling,
So pardon us, so pardon us,
And don't, in girlhood's happy spring,
Be hard on us, be hard on us,
If we're inclined to dance and sing. Tra la la la la
(Dancing.) the august Pooh-bah personage: I think you ought to recollect
You cannot show too much respect
Towards the highly titled few;
But nobody does, and why should you?
That youth at us should have its fling,
Is hard on us, is hard on us;
To our prerogative we cling--
So pardon us, so pardon us,
If we decline to dance and sing. Tra la la la la
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04/04/2002 1:55 PM
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I just remembered being both nude and naked. I had to lie on a table, and two pretty girls shaved off my pubic hair, and tattooed me. The design was a mystic pattern of dots. I did not get an erection. then or ever afterwards The tattooes were for aiming the torture machine used to destroy my manhood.
It was preparation for irradiation treatment for Ca of prostate by linear accelerator.
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#63525
04/04/2002 2:23 PM
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Interesting distinction, now that you mention it.
Nude is unclothed.
Naked implies being exposed (to what?), unprotected, and vulnerable, as well.
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04/05/2002 2:26 AM
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Is Jackie a prude?
Is she never nude?
Maybe never naked.
Damn, I can't find a short-sentence rhymin' line to finish my li'l pome.
Jackie, don't presume to speak for others. I know I'd go ballistic if someone thought they could safely post on my behalf. If someone has a problem with this thread, he or she can post his or her thoughts - I don't suppose, this being a discussion board for word lovers, that anyone here is incapaable of speaking (writing!) for him/herself.
Obviously I find the differences between naked and nude very interesting. I also find modelling a fascinating occupation and it's something I love, for many reasons (no, the nudity is not first among them). I was hoping to hear what other people thought about the distinction between the two states. Within the discussion I was hoping we might get to dispelling some IGNORANCE and PREJUDICE about nudity.
Thanks for giving us a li'l taste of what I was hoping to combat.
MORE IMPORTANTLY: Thank you to Keiva for trying to lighten the mood, and
Thank you to those who are taking this thread "seriously" in that they are posting their responses to/thoughts on my original question.
And if anyone has any questions about nude modelling - why, I'd love to try and answer them for you. Either post them here, where we can cast the light of knowledge farther, or PM me.
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04/05/2002 2:57 AM
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This is a language-discussion board. Or at least it started out that way. If it is the will of most people that that change, then as I said, so be it. I enjoyed it while we had it. Make that loved.
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04/05/2002 3:30 AM
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....bring on the nude/naked distinctions. I am interested.
[deep sigh-e]
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04/05/2002 2:14 PM
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04/05/2002 2:23 PM
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I have often wondered how prehistoric women kept their infants warm in the days before they even had knives to skin animals. Also how they managed without diapers. My father once suggested they used sphagnum moss, but how could they hold it in place?
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04/05/2002 3:35 PM
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[confused -e] What was THAT about, AnnaS?
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04/05/2002 5:32 PM
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I ass|u|me'd that it was completely unrelated to the original thread, or about the general thrust of the forum, and was just something she felt like saying. but I could be wrong.
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04/05/2002 6:40 PM
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I see, tsuwm, like a person who walks into an ongoing conversation and interjects unrelated comment?
Nice pun, by the way. [kicking self for not having thought of that one -e]
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04/05/2002 7:42 PM
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From my position as a former nude model aand anything-but-a-prude, I agree with Jackie. Which is why I've been posting my responses over at Miscellany, out of respect for her reasons, which involve others, not her specifically.
modestgoddess, are you single-handedly trying to change what this board is about? If so, have fun and if the majority likes your changes, "so be it."
Meanwhile, can we get on with words? And yes, to me "nude" implies willingness, "naked" implies helplessness.
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04/05/2002 7:47 PM
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a person who walks into an ongoing conversation and interjects unrelated comment
This from one who does this repeatedly, and usually ends up killing threads.
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04/05/2002 10:13 PM
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Dear ASp: Have you an example, or just the power of your unsupported naked assertion?
No doubt you will feel free to critique my posts, but might it be more illuminating to discuss real events rather than hypothetical unspecified ones? Evidence, child; evidence.
Edit: "This from one who ..."
I see that you want to change the subject fron your own interjection.
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