#62120
03/23/2002 3:41 PM
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The title of this post is a wonderful ballad by Joni Mitchell which compares her lover to a fine wine with which she would enjoy overindulgence!
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Over in "Phizzog", stales posted this:
Couple of beers short of a carton...
Beer comes in cases (as does wine) in this neck of the woods, and cigarettes came in cartons (10 packs of). We used to get cartons of milk with lunch at school and cases of pop (let's not start the soda/pop thread again) when it came in bottles... but I've never heard any other use of carton, have you?
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#62121
03/23/2002 5:51 PM
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Carton is used here and in Zild to describe any large box made out of cardboard. The varying usage of it as you describe, Musick, is merely the association of a container type with various common products. One of the easier ones for us all to cope with en route to elsewhere!
The idiot also known as Capfka ...
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#62122
03/23/2002 6:19 PM
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...any large box..
In this case, of beer.
...en route to elsewhere!
I'm starting to get the picture, just hold the antenna... right... there!
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#62123
03/23/2002 9:40 PM
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paper comes in cartons.. 10 reams to one carton, 10 cartons to a flat, (10% discount 3 or more flats!)
and eggs come in cartons.. (usually a dozen, but fancy organic eggs laid by free range chickens are sold in packs of 8)
and i would still call the waxed cardboard quarts and half gallons of milk containers cartons, (but not the plastic jugs. but i don't use much milk, (i drink coffee black) so i buy 1 quart cartons.
a quick check shows carton is from the italian, for cartone, based on the italian carta (cardboard, paper) and is defined as a cardboard box, especially a large one for shipping things.
Most NY eggs are still packed in packaging that looks like, a soft paper/ cardboard felt. some brand come in fancy styrofoam boxes.
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#62124
03/23/2002 11:20 PM
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...and eggs come in cartons.. (usually a dozen, but fancy organic eggs laid by free range chickens are sold in packs of 8)Yehbut *we never said "a carton of eggs"! It was always "a dozen"... (the only reason it's 8 so the "au naturel" chicken egg carton costs as much, even though you get less... unless... since chickens have three claws and an almost missing fourth, making a carton of 8 keeping *true to the chickens' natural counting tendencies.)  I understand humans coming up with 'base ten', but why 12? What's with calling 12 a 'dozen'. Was the baker just trying to offer more for your money? Is this some Pythagorean conspiracy, or worse yet... an attempt to undermine all that is true and just? Be with us next week for the chilling adventures of Count Styrofoam!
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#62125
03/24/2002 4:17 AM
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Well, musick, according to M-W Collegiate, the word came from: Etymology: Middle English dozeine, from Middle French dozaine, from doze twelve, from Latin duodecim, from duo two + decem ten How we came to measure out things that way, I don't know. I also don't know how something could have "an almost missing" claw  . Could you 'splain, please? Hey--I just realized where the "duodecim"al system came from!
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#62126
03/24/2002 6:26 PM
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The accessory metatarsus is pictured here: http://www.urbanext.uiuc.edu/eggs/res13-feet.htmlI suppose "almost useless" would be more specific? kinda like a claw sticking out of your heelDewey sea aye two aye?
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#62127
03/24/2002 9:37 PM
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Dewey sea aye two aye? Always, lovely musick! The syzygy is good... 
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#62128
03/24/2002 10:58 PM
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The syzygy is good...
Ya can't fool me, there ain't no sanity claws!
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#62129
03/25/2002 4:17 PM
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there ain't no sanity claws!
How could they be? They're all down there in the dirt...
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#62130
03/25/2002 8:02 PM
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Sanity -vs- sanitary? Is that like salvation -vs- salivation?
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#62131
03/25/2002 8:11 PM
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#62132
03/30/2002 3:52 AM
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Just in case anyone was curious about this lyric
A CASE OF YOU
Just before our love got lost you said,
"I am as constant as a northern star."
And I said, "Constantly in the darkness
Where's that at?
If you want me I'll be in the bar."
On the back of a cartoon coaster
In the blue TV screen light
I drew a map of Canada
Oh Canada
With your face sketched on it twice
Oh, you're in my blood like holy wine
You taste so bitter and so sweet
Oh I could drink a case of you, darling
And I would still be on my feet
Oh I would still be on my feet
Oh I am a lonely painter
I live in a box of paints
I'm frightened by the devil
And I'm drawn to those ones that ain't afraid
I remember that time you told me, you said,
"Love is touching souls"
Surely you touched mine
'Cause part of you pours out of me
In these lines from time to time
Oh, you're in my blood like holy wine
You taste so bitter and so sweet
Oh I could drink a case of you, darling
Still, I'd be on my feet
I would still be on my feet
I met a woman
She had a mouth like yours
She knew your life
She knew your devils and your deeds
And she said,
"Go to him, stay with him if you can
But be prepared to bleed"
Oh but you are in my blood
You're my holy wine
You're so bitter, bitter and so sweet
Oh, I could drink a case of you, darling
Still I'd be on my feet
I would still be on my feet
-Joni Mitchell
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#62133
03/30/2002 10:00 PM
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A case of you could also = illness.....An acquaintance once told me that a woman he met in a bar quickly got drunk and then was all over him "like a bad rash." I've had a case of you or two like that before!! 
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