#62038
03/22/2002 10:32 PM
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Just the majors:
BEST FILM: The Lord of the Rings (strong competition: A Beautiful Mind)
BEST DIRECTOR: Ron Howard, A Beautiful Mind (Peter Jackson, LOTR)
BEST ACTOR: Russell Crowe (Denzel Washington)
BEST ACTRESS: Sissy Spacek (Kidman, Berry)
BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR: Ian McKellen (no competition)
BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS: Jennifer Connelly (Marisa Tomei)
CINEMATOGRAPHY: The Lord of the Rings (no competition)
BEST SONG: Sting, "Until", Kate & Leopold (McCartney, Newman)
BEST FOREIGN LANGUAGE FILM: Amélie
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#62039
03/24/2002 2:27 PM
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You've got courage I'll say that for you Whit ... how is the view from out on that limb?
At this point I enjoy the "Red Carpet" fashion show as the stars parade into the theater more than the actual awards.
I've become so skeptical of the Oscars I just flip in to watch when there are commercials on for the program I am actually watching.
The publicity beforehand, the politicing that goes on is outrageous ... and I have that from friends in The Biz.
And the show is so l-o-n-g ! and the acceptance speeches are so b-o-r-i-n-g !
And it really pi.... oops ... makes me angry ... when, in interviews all the "stars" and "directors" and "producers" say that the foundation for all the Oscar movies, indeed all good movies, is the writing ...AND YET the Oscars for writing are not part of the televised Oscar show. They were part of the award show years ago, I remember hearing them. "Best screenplay adapted from another medium" and "Best original screenplay" are two I particularly recall.
As far as I am concerned they can cut those gloopy song and dance numbers, limit the acceptance to 25 words or fewer, and put back the writing awards!
Then I will look forward to watching the Oscar presentations.
Now there is a crusade all word lovers can get behind!
Anyone care to join my parade?
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#62040
03/24/2002 3:55 PM
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I don't understand the big fuss about 'A Beautiful Mind', I went to see it on a 'sneak preview' ticket and couldn't even watch the whole thing. Its superficial, doctored, and warped portrayal of such a complex man was a waste of time. I don't care how much head-shaking, nodding and stuttering Russel Crowe did in the film - he's not convincing. It certainly was better than his horrible effort at the vengeful Maximus though, [shudder]. My vote (for Hollywood!) goes to the prettiest film, Lord of the Rings - not that I've ever have or ever will watch the Oscars. If Moulin Rouge (which I saw parts of while flying) wins anything but 'The Most Predicable Plot', or the 'Best Costumes' award then a true travesty has taken place, not for the first, or last time I fear either.
My* favs of late are Amelie, Memento, and Waking Life.
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#62041
03/24/2002 6:15 PM
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Well, I've hardly seen anything, so I don't have much to base an opinion on. The only foreign film I saw this year was Amelie--and it blew me away completely. In fact, it was my favorite movie all year long of those I did see in a theatre.
I was mad about "Moulin Rouge"--loved it, was amazed at how it frolicked and was so completely, wildly creative just to be able to do what they did with probably a limitless budget. And the CD is just so great. But Oscar material? I dunno. Probably not.
I haven't see "A Beautiful Mind," but everybody I know who has says Crowe is great in it--but everybody I know who went to see Crowe in it has a big crush on him, my daughter most droolingly.
So, I really don't have much of an opinion based on my lack of knowledge here. I hope Nicole Kidman wins something simply because she was fun in Moulin Rouge and was completely different in the ghost story ("The Others"--was that the title?)--plus she went through a pretty hard year emotionally. Ha! I know that's not a consideration, but, heh, everybody's thinking it anyway, so why not post it here!
Still, if "Amelie" wins something and more people go to see it, great. I'm all for promoting any work of art that elevates the world of the imagination to its rightful position in the grand scheme of things.
Best regards,
DubDabbednotinthisyear'smovies
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#62042
03/24/2002 6:19 PM
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I'm with wow on this one! ... and I stopped watching all award shows when they gave Olivia Newton-John the Grammy for "I Honestly Love You" 
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#62043
03/24/2002 6:51 PM
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and put back the writing awards!Well, sure, we all know about how the show goes (gave new meaning to the word lugubrious, even with Bob Hope), and how a lot of it is just a bunch of political posturing...but having been involved with the biz I always watch. And, wow, actually the writing awards are still there, "Best Original Screenplay" and "Best Screenplay from an Adapted Source", I just didn't put them in because, as a writer, I've always had an attitude about Hollywood because film is not a writer's medium. As soon as the script is turned over, the directors and producers do whatever they want with it, and screenwriters joke that there's a special bar in L.A. after productrions wrap where all the screenwriters go "after getting f***** again." Unlike in the legitimate theatre where the playwright's words are treated with the respect of scripture, no changes without the playwright's consent (except, perhaps, for a minor word, here, or a phrase, there). Only one screenwriter achieved the type of respect where he, more or less, had control over his scripts, the master Paddy Chayefsky (who died too young... Network, Marty, others). The only other writers who have script control are auteurs like Woody Allen, but their numbers are slim indeed (look to Annie Hall for a prime example of good film-writing, folks!). There has been somewhat of a gain in respect, finanacially, for screenwriters over the last several years, however. Some established writers now command $1-$2 million a script. Up until about four or five years ago, while the producers, directors, and stars were earning megamillions, most writers were lucky to be thrown $100,000 bucks or so for a script. So here's my omitted picks (selected by who I think will win, not my personal choice...if I had my druthers I'd give The Lord of the Rings all 13 awards it's up for): BEST ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY: Christopher Nolan, MementoBEST ADAPTED SCREENPLAY: Jackson, Walsh, Boyens; The Lord of the Rings(now excuse me while I take my overly-kinetic husky/collie, Milo, for a walk on the beach...) 
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#62044
03/25/2002 8:20 PM
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warped portrayal of such a complex man was a waste of time. I don't care how much head-shaking, nodding and stuttering Russel Crowe did in the film - he's not convincing.
All I can tell you is that my sister-in-law, who has been a psychiatric nurse for over 30 years, says the portrayal is excellent.
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#62045
03/26/2002 5:38 PM
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> All I can tell you is that my sister-in-law, who has been a psychiatric nurse for over 30 years, says the portrayal is excellent. Mmm. I wasn't referring to his role in the film as someone mentally disturbed though really, after all he was meant to achieve far more than that. I was talking about his mumbling genius act. I'd hazard a guess that your sister-in-law's opinion was determined by more than his theatrical capabilities too  . Experts on Roman culture may too have liked him in that gladiatorial mush - either way both films remain (in my cynical eyes) a waste of time. I heard they gave an Oscar to Denzel can't-act-his-way-out-of-a-paperbag Washington - need we say more about the farce that it is.
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#62046
03/27/2002 7:22 PM
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Has anyone kept a list of who *did win? Not that I am suggesting comparisons! This year the Red Carpet fashions were rather. well, bland. Excepting Hallie Berry, Julia Roberts and First-Ever-Afro-American-Best-Actress-Winner Hallie Berrie. (see ** below) They and Dame Judy Dench were among the few who looked as if they had washed and combed their hair for the event! And fashion maven Joan Rivers wore blue tinted glasses and diamond and emerald earings. Should have gone with diamonds n' saphires if you have blue glasses or if you love emeralds - green glasses... tsk tsk Joan! As for the men ... well you just can't beat evening wear for sheer elegance! ** http://gwtw98.warnerbros.com/cmp/hattie.htmfor a very short bio and a picture of Hattie McDaniel, the first Afro American *ever to win any kind of Oscar.
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#62047
03/27/2002 7:39 PM
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you just can't beat evening wear for sheer elegance!
Yeah! Curled up in front of a nice roaring wood stove in baggy sweats and gorilla slippers.
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#62048
03/27/2002 7:47 PM
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vengeful Maximus
Hey, that's one of my favorite movies! I also like him in The Quick and the Dead. Ah, well. Haven't seen BM, yet, but I look forward to it.
Did you ever see Derek Jacoby as Claudius? (Or as Alan Turing?)
DJ wasn't portraying schizophrenia, but he did do a lot of stuttering and stammering.
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#62049
03/27/2002 8:08 PM
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Yeah! Curled up in front of a nice roaring wood stove in baggy sweats and gorilla slippers.Oooooooo! Faldage! Such a lovely image! Will you bring your gorilla slippers to Wordapalooza!? 
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03/27/2002 8:21 PM
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#62051
03/27/2002 8:29 PM
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The emporer Claudius in the BBC's adaption of the Robert Graves book(s).
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#62052
03/28/2002 3:01 AM
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As a tragic Oscarphile, I must say: you have obviously tuned in to the (interminable, yes) telecast of the ceremony in the wrong ad breaks! Oscars for the all-important writing are always in the main show!These are the awards for original screenplay and screenplay adapted from another source. Thankfully this year there was NO singing and dancing too. . .although maybe a few too many montages? As for the much hyped attire and hair - don't get me started. Not a lot to be impressed with there. Parting shot = Russell was shafted!
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#62053
03/28/2002 3:09 AM
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I suppose anyone named zootsuit has the right to criticize the clothing at the Oscars! Welcome aBoard!
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#62054
03/28/2002 4:26 AM
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NO singing and dancing too. . .
Huh? Well, I wonder what I was watching. I'm pretty sure I saw 5 whole songs run together into one! [yawn-e]
But aside from that, I must say WELCOME zootsuit! And from Oz to boot! Yee hah! Stales, another one of your breed has climbed aBoard.
FWIW, I think both Best Actor and Actress winners are deserving of recognition. Whether these specific performances are the ones they deserve recognition for, I don't know. I'll reserve my judgement until I've seen both films.
Hev
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#62055
03/28/2002 8:34 AM
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oh yeah. . .THAT singing. duh - I forgot that! there was also the bit by cirque du soleil too wasn't there? tsk tsk - how quickly the memory dims. thanks for the warm welcome by the way!
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#62056
03/28/2002 12:36 PM
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Welcome Zootsuit! And I am one who remembers what a (circa 1940) zootsuit looked like! For the younger set : Here's the best link - with a decent photo- I could find with a quick Google but be warned it's an advert http://www.suavecito.com/Zoots.htm
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#62057
03/28/2002 3:07 PM
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I am one who remembers what a (circa 1940) zootsuit looked like!
But tell me, wow, do you remember the song, "I want a zootsuit / with a drape shape / and a reet pleat..." and so on? Pretty bad musically, but perhaps some historical significance for trivia buffs.
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#62058
03/28/2002 3:52 PM
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For the younger set : Here's the best link - with a decent photo- I could find with a quick Google but be warned it's an advertFor the wannabe Miami Vice pimps, presumably....
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#62059
03/28/2002 4:48 PM
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Dear wow,
So that's what a zoot suit is! I've been impressed over the years that that particular look is kind of ratlike to me--in fact, I'm going to send my mom to your link for the ten-year-old boy who's playing the part of Rooster in our Annie here at school. The zoot suit look will suit his character fine.
Best regards,
WW
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#62060
03/28/2002 6:49 PM
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03/29/2002 5:39 PM
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Welcome aBoard, zootsuit. I love those suits! And the HATS! Men's 40's hats are...irresistibly rakish!
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#62062
03/29/2002 10:12 PM
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tsuwm, that's not a rat. That's Yakko from the Warner Brothers cartoon of about 5-6 years ago called Animaniacs. I think he's supposed to be a dog. The premise of the story was that Yakko, along with his brother Wakko and their sister Dot (they called themselves "the Warner brothers . . . and the Warner sister) were cartoon a long time ago, but came out of the paper and wreaked havok around the studios. They were then locked up in the WB water tower and left there. The show began with them escaping from the tower. The show itself, though, was more of a variety show, with various short stories, songs and "the Wheel of Morality." All of it was, of course, totally in jest (as all good WB cartoons are.) I can't believe I'm explaining a cartoon. Ah, but that show was a staple of my pre-teen years.
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#62063
04/07/2002 3:11 PM
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she's me mate from arahnd th'corna...
Good to have her aboard.
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