#61057
03/14/2002 2:34 AM
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warning - geek alert
Can anyone tell me what happens to posts while they're being edited? Are they still visible in their previous form, or are they temporarily off-line while being revised?
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#61058
03/14/2002 3:37 AM
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I think they're still visible in their original form, wofa. I've had posts answered while I was editing them, and I've answered posts while they were being edited.
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#61059
03/14/2002 8:47 AM
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Can anyone tell me what happens to posts while they're being edited? Are they still visible in their previous form, or are they temporarily off-line while being revised?
Being basically html web documents the unedited posts will remain visible until they have been updated and published. When you submit your edited post there is a time lapse after which you will see the standard 'submitted' message. This lapse is the period during which your post is uploaded to the AWAD server.
Any member currently viewing your post will still see the unedited version until they reload/refresh their browser. This also applies to new posts, of course.
The only thing I don't like about the editing option on this site is that it does not update the time and date (or position on the thread) accordingly. Some form of time stamp for editing would be very useful.
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#61060
03/14/2002 12:20 PM
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Speaking of useful things, is there an "underline" function I've not located? [u] doesn't do it.
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#61061
03/14/2002 12:57 PM
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I have a question, too, please. Quite often I'll have more than one screen; I'll be in, say, showflat, and in another maybe I'll be sending a PM. Which one of them will Who's Online show?
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#61062
03/14/2002 1:10 PM
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The Who's Online Page records the Last Activity..
So, if you open 2 windows of AWAD, and are view posts.. that's what it shows.. but you click in to reply to one.. now your are at a reply, until you do something to change your status again.. ( any click of the mouse, that take you to any link.. will cause an update.. and if you open AWAD, at thread, and then go off to make coffee, and get distracted when you drop the can of coffee, and start to sweep up the mess, and realize you should give the floor a mop, and 20 minutes goes by... even though you are still logged in, you activity will show you are not on line. (after 10 minutes.. it goes blank!)
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#61063
03/14/2002 2:17 PM
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Speaking of useful things, is there an "underline" function I've not located? [u] doesn't do it.
No, you can't do it in markup. All of the available markup features are listed in the FAQ link at the top of the page.
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#61064
03/14/2002 4:47 PM
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Since everyone is asking questions, here's mine: is there a way to go directly to the last post on a thread (rather than hitting Show All, waiting for stuff to load, and then scrolling down)? Hmmm - pretty lazy of me, huh?
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#61065
03/14/2002 4:50 PM
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boronia, if you set your Profile preferences to show 99 posts per page, it will minimize the need to hit "show all" and wait for it. (which, I agree, can be an incredible frustration)
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#61066
03/14/2002 6:21 PM
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03/14/2002 8:26 PM
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is there a way to go directly to the last post on a thread (rather than hitting Show All, waiting for stuff to load, and then scrolling down)?
Something you might want to try is using the "End" key (in the little group of keys above the arrow keys, at least on my keyboard) to go to the bottom of the page. I find this helpful when there's a really long thread. If there are a lot of new posts, however, you'll end up scrolling upwards to find the first new post. So either way you might have to do some scrolling.
PS: Today my End key won't work, and neither will my Page Up or Page Down keys, but the rest of the keyboard works fine. Could anyone tell me why they suddenly conked out? Calling all computer geeks!
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#61068
03/14/2002 8:51 PM
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Today my End key won't work, and neither will my Page Up or Page Down keys, but the rest of the keyboard works fine. Could anyone tell me why they suddenly conked out?
Well, Rapunzel, it's highly technical. Ya see, usually this sort of thing happens on the Ides of March, but if ya check yer computer's clock, I think you'll find that you've got it set a little bit ahead. Just wait around until about this same time tomorrow, and it should clear itself right up! Provided the correct offerings and sacrifices at the Oracle, of course.
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#61069
03/14/2002 9:08 PM
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Ya see, usually this sort of thing happens on the Ides of March
Oooooh, brutal FB, positively brutal. You too, eh? [laugh}
The idiot also known as Capfka ...
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#61070
03/14/2002 9:13 PM
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>it's highly technical. well, if you're going technical on us, today is actually the 2nd day of the Ides of March -- these things were reckoned backwards, you know. http://home.mn.rr.com/wwftd/
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#61071
03/14/2002 9:19 PM
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Kiwi, was that incident was sub rosa, or infra structure? 
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#61072
03/14/2002 9:23 PM
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Well, Rapunzel, it's highly technical.Thanks for all of the help  but the problem seems to have corrected itself. The keys are suddenly functional again.
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#61073
03/15/2002 12:24 PM
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Thanks, Helen, for all that info.--esp. that part about it showing you not there after ten minutes. 'Cause sometimes I do walk away from the computer without closing AWAD--once I went out to dinner, leaving it open--and I was really wondering if people might be thinking I was actually here for 4 or 5 hours straight!
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The keys are suddenly functional again.
Ain't it the truth, Rapunzel? These machines do seem to take fits, of whether they're going to work or not. I almost never do special characters (é is an exception) any more, because suddenly, some of the numbers on my keypad simply send me back a screen (or two), as though I've hit the Back arrow. I can't figure it. By the way, for other computer neophytes, if ever you have gone back to the middle of some previous typing to do a correction, and whenever you do your retyping, and subsequent letters disappear, that means you have hit the Insert key as well as, or in place of, Backspace. Press it again, and you can correct normally. That had me literally screaming, until I called the computer store nearly in tears, and the guy told me!
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#61074
03/15/2002 1:18 PM
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Jackie and Rapunzel,
I suspect your scrolling problems have do do with the "scroll lock" and or "num lock" functions of your keyboard. On my 'board the number pad to the right of the regular keyboard can function as a number-entering device or as a scrolling device -- I expect yours do too (do the 2,4,6 & 8 keys have arrows on 'em?). If you want to use that pad as numbers, you have to have the "num lock" active (there is a light next to a #1 near the "caps lock" light on my 'board). I use the number pad for numbers, but the default when you turn the computer on is scroll lock on, so I have to remember to switch it everyday. Hope this helps!
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#61075
03/15/2002 7:25 PM
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What is the purpose of showing us the number of "views" a thread has? Is there a significance there that I am not aware of?
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#61076
03/15/2002 7:40 PM
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the number of "views" a thread has
Can't compute the stales index© without knowing the number of views.
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03/15/2002 7:47 PM
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Can't compute the stales index© without knowing the number of views.Okies! Really glad I asked that question! Maybe someday he'll explain THAT one to me! 
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#61078
03/15/2002 7:55 PM
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an in-reference, angel.
Stales pointed out that the ratio of views-to-posts is a rough-and-ready index of how interesting a thread has been. A relatively high ratio indicates that a high proportion of those who viewed the thread found they did not have anything to say in response -- suggesting low interest-value.
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#61079
03/15/2002 8:08 PM
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re:What is the purpose of showing us the number of "views" a thread has?
i don't know-- except the soft ware keeps track of the views. which is how it knows you've looked at something, and to delete the new and to update the number on the theme page.
you can also save time by using the back key-- but then the number and new don't get update.. so, weave back and forth, --open a thread, read, hit back, open a new thread, back, back again to main index, open another theme, read a thread, back, and after a about three Main themes (I & A, Misc., WordPlay and Fun), hit refresh.
the advantage of "back" is you machine will have cache'dthe pages it, and they will load faster! but since you are loading the 'cached' view, it will not have been updated, and it will not accurately reflect the correct number of new post to read!
so, you get increased performence speed -- but it does make it a bit confusing.. since it is not immediately evident which thread you have read (if you chance to read them out of order!) and Posting plays havic too, since back brings you back to to the "post has been sent, you will be automatically returne to forum in a few minutes" page!
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#61080
03/15/2002 8:37 PM
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Re: scrolling
depending on your browsers, there are some scrolling short cuts..
you use the right button! (not a side, but right in the manner of correct!)the right button on the mouse.
which is the right button? Well, place your hand on your mouse --naturally, you index finger fall on one button, and your middle finger falls on an other button.-- isolate your middle finger.. hold up your hand.. this is a special finger.. it has special purposes.. and its not used just any old time.. its always a special occasion when we use it.. if you need to do something special, especially in computer software, you must remember this special finger! i teach it just this way, and at first, people are slightly aghast, but in the end, every one end up laughing,-- and they remember!
So place your mouse pointer in the scroll bar area, and right click-- Use that special finger to do it right! (even you southpaws!)
if you have Netscape 6.2, or MS Explorer, or if you use AOL, you'll get a menu! (i don't know all the browsers!) but some Notes supports it too,
SCROLL HERE
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TOP
BOTTOM
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PAGE UP
PAGE DOWN
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SCROLL UP
SCROLL DOWN
bottom brings you to the last post!
fast and easy!
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#61081
03/16/2002 2:22 AM
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Wow, thank you, Flatlander! That was it, sure enough! (Not that I doubted you, but it was news to me.) I've never had a clue what any of the buttons on my keyboard do, other than the letters and the numbers (oh, and the four arrow keys). I did finally learn Print Screen (sometimes I can get it to work), and that with Control I can highlight more than one thing at a time. Um--since Caps Lock will give you caps only, then...Num. lock will give you numbers only? It never occurred to me what the arrows on the numbers might be for. I have no idea of how to use the Insert function--but at least I've learned when I need to undo it, the darned sneaky thing! Helen--I did pick up right away that when you hit the Back arrow, that page comes up a whole lot faster. That's caching, then? Caching is, um, storing? [still groping in the dark e] Also, I did the right-click thing--my menu has nothing about scrolling. Max--I want you to come here and give me lessons! May I cache in on your knowledge?
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#61082
03/16/2002 4:24 PM
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yes, jackie, not all browsers use the right button option..The very newest version of Netscape (6.2) does.
as for print screen.. it works best in DOS(an ancient computer language, only known to scholars) but!
try this.. (it won't work in awad, but it will work in email, and other places)
open a "window" (ie, Character map) hold the alt key, and now press print screen. (nothing visably happens!) but now, open up Word, (word perfect, what ever) and press the "paste" icon. (it often looks like a clipboard) and Voila! you have captured an image, and pasted it into your document. (see Max's hints, he has lots of "screen captured images"). this is how we trainers "picture" steps for you . (actually, i have moved on to making moving image files, so users can see the mouse move, with a scripted dialog, explaining what they are seeing..I'll teach you how to do that next year)
and yes, caching is something your computer does.. automaticaly.. it is a way of saving information, so that it can get to it faster. bigger new computers, with more memory have bigger cache files. but even old slow, 64K ram computers like mine have a fair about of cache. (at work i have 256K.. very fast!)
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03/16/2002 6:53 PM
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Dear Helen ... understood it all except So place your mouse pointer in the scroll bar area
Where is that dang scroll bar? I am guessing you do not mean a highlighted are.
Help!?! Please?
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#61084
03/16/2002 7:27 PM
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wow, the scroll bar is the part of the screen you use to make what's on the screen go up or down. It's likely on the very edge of one side (the right, on mine), with a square that has a triangle in it at either end, and a moveable rectangle that you can slide up and down it. If what's on your screen is w-i-d-e, you'll have one across the bottom, too, to move things right or left. Now, if someone would tell me what that bottom bar where Start, etc., is called, I'd appreciate it.
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#61085
03/16/2002 7:52 PM
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...what that bottom bar where Start, etc., is calledTask bar. Although maybe it's the tool bar; I can't keep them straight. All these bars are enough to drive you to drink  And if you move the mouse pointer (A.K.A. the "cursor" - lots of room for expressiveness there) precisely onto the boundary between the bar and the rest of the screen, you get a little double-ended arrow, and then you can click-and-hold on it and, while holding it, drag it to make the bar bigger or smaller or even move it to the top or the right side or the left side. If you've a mind to. And if you think you've lost it, you probably didn't, but it's been reduced _so_ small that it's only a little line at the edge of the screen. You can get it back again by moving the cursor all the way out to the edge - very precisely, remember - and get that double-arrow back, on which you can then click-and-hold again and drag the taskbar back to visible size...
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#61086
03/16/2002 11:06 PM
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or better yet if you have a small monitor, go to
Start--> Setting--> Control Panal--> Task bar and Start menu
there are four "check boxes"
always on top
auto Hide
Show small icons in Start menu
show clock
Always on top most likely checked
add a check to Auto hide.
it will cause you task bar to "fall" just below the viewing area of the monitor.. but if you bring your mouse/cursor near, it pops up..with a small monitor, this is a nice chunk of real estate.
and WOW, any where in the scroll bar. on the "slider" or in the "track" -- but it doesn't work with every browser! still, try it out!
you can also use the "right finger to do a right click" and a thread. top choice is back..
PS-- there are two common kinds of check boxes.. square ones, (proper check boxes) allow for mulitple choices.
round ones, (radio buttons) only one can be selected. (think of the preprogramed radio station buttons in your car)
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03/17/2002 1:10 AM
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Of course, to obviate all these complications, y'all could get a Mac
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03/17/2002 3:53 PM
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wow, the scroll bar is the part of the screen you use to make what's on the screen go up or down.
Of course it is!
Thank you.
I'll have to get the mechanic to increase the synapse function in the old brain pan!
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03/17/2002 4:13 PM
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OK....Why does the bottom of the page say: "All times are EST"? I sent an e-mail to Anu after I first realized this error, and have never had an answer to my question. For those who don't know, times are posted in CST (Central Standard Time), not EST (Eastern Standard Time).
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03/18/2002 2:12 AM
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And can anybody explain the "Check spelling" function? I laugh each time I accidentally hit the button when aiming for "Continue".
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03/18/2002 4:08 AM
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many will try to tell you that our spell-checker is an entertainment feature of the site, but the truth is that the so-called ænigma is as primitive as they come, being nothing more than a lookup in a minimal word list -- if the word isn't found it merely substitutes the next one in the alphabetical list. thus dysuria comes out each. http://home.mn.rr.com/wwftd/
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03/19/2002 2:59 PM
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I have no idea of how to use the Insert function-
Dear Jackie,
Coming late to this thead...Insert is a frustrating key. By default it's on. That is, if I write a sentence and forget a word, and I go and put my cursor where I forgot the word, and type the word, the other words move over - I "inserted" the word. If you press Insert, it turns this function off. They used to call it "TYPEOVER" in old WordPerfect. So, if you've pressed Insert, you're in Typeover mode, meaning that each letter you type REPLACES the letters "underneath" it rather than them all marching over to the right like you're used to. In Word, three little letters "OVR" appear on the bottom status bar when you've got it switched to Typeover. In other programs you have no way to know if you've switched it on or off!
In other words, the Insert key toggles the Typeover concept on and off. You don't really "use" it like you do, say, the space bar.
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03/19/2002 11:53 PM
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Well, I've never had WordPerfect, but I understood what you said, anyway. Thanks, Bean! EDIT--Hey, I just made a new discovery--my arrow keys will let me scroll the page! Ho-lee cow, MUCH easier on my hand! (Yes, I know--I'm pitiful.)
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03/20/2002 2:47 AM
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Did anybody else get circe twice? I got it at 12:01 a.m. and at 11:59 a.m. today, the 19th.
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03/22/2002 5:05 PM
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Well, I just got today's word--mogul--for the second time:
12:01 a.m. and 12:54 p.m.
Also, I have made a discovery. I just made a 2-line post, and noticed that the window took up about 4 inches of screen space. Then I remembered I'd accidentally scrolled way down, when I hit Ctrl and v to paste (it does that a lot, and I don't know why). So I deleted the post (having for once remembered to use the Back arrow and copy my original post with the markup, uh, cues?), responded anew, pasted in with no error this time, and voila, a shallow post box! I take up too much space all the time anyway, so there's no use taking even more, if I don't have to.
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03/23/2002 1:46 AM
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I read in some recent posts that there are Web designers on board. I have done some amateur designing and have a question. I am sorry if this inappropriate for this forum, but since this thread was current I thought I would take a chance..
Question: When you design a page (with 100% table width) for a PC console, on a lap top it comes out all bunched up in the left hand top corner corner. This happens just for the home page. The only way I have found to get over this is to design it off center for the PC screen - that brings it more to the center for the Lap top screen. Is there a way to have it in the center for both the lap top and PC?
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Thanks in advance to Helen of troy or Rubrick or any one else who might answer this question.
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The only word twist I could give to this post is three different words for the thing you are looking at - console, monitor, screen - any others?
I just checked - MW doesn't give the definition of console as a monitor or screen??? It is the thing that the radio or television sits on? Okay!
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