#60045
03/08/2002 3:30 AM
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This just in from a friend:
Correlation.....
[a] The Japanese eat very little fat and suffer fewer heart attacks
than the British or Americans.
On the other hand, the French eat a lot of fat and also suffer
fewer heart attacks than the British or Americans.
[c] Conclusion: Eat what you like. It's speaking English that kills you.
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#60046
03/08/2002 1:09 PM
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Alors, je parlerai le Francais seulement.
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03/08/2002 1:12 PM
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mais ecrire en anglais - ca va?
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03/08/2002 1:21 PM
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Can we get translations in white for those who are monolingual folks? Thanks! 
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03/08/2002 1:30 PM
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Alors, je parlerai le Francais seulement.
Then I will only speak French.
mais ecrire en anglais - ca va?
but writing in English is OK?
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03/08/2002 1:49 PM
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A thousand thank you's Baronia!
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03/08/2002 1:57 PM
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Yeahbut®
There's fat and there's fat.
Shall we start a nutrition thread? Helen, where art thou?
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03/08/2002 3:43 PM
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03/08/2002 3:53 PM
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huh? now I need a translation - please
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03/08/2002 4:08 PM
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re:There's fat and there's fat.
Shall we start a nutrition thread? Helen, where art thou?
a recent article in The New Yorker, talked about fat.
there are several basic fats. Animal fats, which tend to be solid at room temptuture, and vegetable fats, which tend to be liquid. (oils)
animal fats have high percentages of cholesterols (from a root word meaning yellow, lest any one think this is not about words!) which can cause problems for people who ingest them.
Vegetable fats are free of cholesterols, but some vegetable fats, are naturally solid at room tempeture. (notable, coconut "oil", and several other oils from tropical plants, i.e., palm oils )
the reason they are solid (details will be provide by the real chemist on Board) is they are naturally "hydogenated".
Hydolizing or hydogenating (similar if not the same processes) make the molocules of the fat longer, and as a side effect make the fat solid at room temps. Crisco shortning is prime example. it also extends the fat shelf life, (Crisco takes years to go rancid) and allow you to use them at higher cooking temps before they break down.
but it seems, your body also has trouble breaking down these fats, and as a result, even though they are cholesteral free, these fat are almost certainly even worse for you than LARD.
the french diet is rich in fats, and many are natural cholesterol high animal fats. the american diet tend to replace these with hydogenated fats.
McDonalds is a fine example, they used to cook there fries in beef tallow. (a fine fat, that gave the fries a great taste) now they use a "Crisco" type hydogenated cholesterol free vegetable fat.
Is sound better in the ads "Cholesterol Free" but it is almost certainly worse!
and to not total loose track, why the leaf in leaf lard-- i know what leaf lard is.. the very best, finest lard, made exclusively from the fat on top of the kidneys.
other interesting fat names include caulfat, fatback,
ghee. I bet there are others.
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#60055
03/08/2002 5:10 PM
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This is excellent! What about the fat in nuts? vegetable fat, certainly not animal - but can go rancid, yes? what is the best way of storing nuts to prevent their going rancid?
because a brazil nut a day helps keep cancer away, but a friend who is very knowledgeable on cancer and carcinogens assures me that nuts can go rancid because of their high fat content, and when they are rancid, nuts are carcinogenic.
So I have been eating a brazil nut a day, but wondering how to prevent my stockpile of nuts from going off.....anyone know? At the moment I keep them in a sealed jar at room temperature. Should I be refrigerating them?
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#60056
03/08/2002 5:12 PM
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just noticed I graduated to "newbie" a couple of posts ago.... you carpal tunnel types must get sick of new people noticing when they move up, but I can tell you, it's a relief not to be considered a "stranger" anymore. 
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03/08/2002 5:21 PM
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No! Freeze them! they are so much easier to shell that way!
and yes, vegetable fats (oils, rather than solid fat for the most part) go rancid much faster! but peanut butter, (commerical) has all the good liquid oily fat, turned into bad solid fat! you really should only eat "organic/natural" peanut butter that has to be stirred and keep cool
to my knowledge not all nuts become carcinogens when rancid (but they sure don't taste as good!) Peanuts most definately do.. but somewhere in an other vaguely food thread, its pointed out peanuts are not nuts, but legumes.
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#60058
03/08/2002 5:47 PM
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but they are already shelled....now what?!
And I'm just thinking of brazil nuts, walnut pieces and almonds here - all of which are good for us for different reasons....
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03/08/2002 6:20 PM
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Nihongo wa wakarimasen
I don't understand Japanese. Does anyone expect you to?
- Shuto Kiui
The idiot also known as Capfka ...
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03/08/2002 6:38 PM
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i keep all my nuts in the freezer, hazelnuts, almonds, pecans and walnuts are a staple in my house (freezer)
i tend to by my brazil nuts in shell, (usually cheaper, and they stay fresher in the shell.) and frozen brazil nuts are reasonable easy to shell, unlike room temp ones -- which defy all nutcrackers known to man!
Anna, what do they call brazil nuts in brazil? i understand the entire crop is collected from wild trees, there are no brazil nut orchards in all of brazil!
(orchard is an other interesting word, for those of you who want to look it up...and side track us!)
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03/08/2002 7:47 PM
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The problem of fats going rancid is a comparativlely simple bit of organic chemistry The carbon atom has a valence of four, meaning it can combine with four other atoms. In fats there are long chains of carbon atoms: -CH2-CH2-CH2- but there can be double bonds between carbon atoms -CH=CH=CH= . The double bonds are readily attacked by oxygen, making relatively short chain fatty acids that smell and taste bad. That we call "rancid".
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03/08/2002 8:43 PM
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what do they call brazil nuts in brazil?
What do they call French underwear in France??
As far as I know French letters (condoms) are called (something) Anglais in France.
Sorry to break the rhythm of this thread!!
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#60063
03/08/2002 9:02 PM
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...how to prevent my stockpile of nuts from going off.....anyone know?
Must... resist... temptation...
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03/08/2002 9:03 PM
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well since we haven't established whether to use filberts or hazel nuts, in this country, and while we spell pecan
we are not sure how we say it..(is it pea can or Pa cahn?) and brazil nuts are the nuts we import from brazil..
they might have almost no name (local nuts) or they might have an intesting name..in portugues or a native brazil language.
can you get them in ireland now? they where a total new nut to my parents (who left dublin post WWII) wedge shaped, dark, almost black shell, some what rough, and ridged. and the nut inside is creamy, rich, and mildly flavored. they are larger than a peanut, and do not readily split (like say peanut or cashews or pistashcios.
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03/08/2002 9:18 PM
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Hazel nuts are more common in a chocolate bar than eaten au naturel but I have never heard of filbert sbefore, Helen. Are they related?
We say Pea can for Pecan but we only eat them in pies or ice cream.
When I lived in Brazil I never knew their name so I'll leave it to Anna to answer that one.
Brazils are very common in Ireland. Mostly eaten at Hallowe'en with other varieties of nuts and fruits (don't forget that hallowe'en started in Ireland and is a very old ritual called Oíche samhain - so the fruits have a meaningful association), the chocolate variety remain my staple diet Monday to Friday 9:00 to 11:00 along with a strong mug of joe (or two) and The Irish Times online.
It's true. After the war the world became a smaller place and exotic foods suddenly flooded into Britain and Ireland ena masse. Whereas tea was the more common drink on these isles, coffee quickly took over. bananas made an appearance and, I presume, this is also when most nuts made their entrance. Up until a few years ago one was still able to meet an aged person who would tell you (in a semi-comical way): "I remember when I first saw a banana".
Really?
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03/09/2002 1:17 AM
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Dear CK: explain to of troy why you do not keep your nuts in the freezer.
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03/09/2002 2:56 AM
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Dear CK: explain to of troy why you do not keep your nuts in the freezer.
I'll bet it's because he was wise enough to read the instructions on that Swedish chainsaw.
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#60068
03/09/2002 3:02 AM
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or perhaps he learned from the experience of the brass monkey?
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03/09/2002 3:57 AM
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Allo Modest. After one bad hazelnut experience I tend to buy nuts as I need them. Most of our grocery stores keep a tremendous variation of nuts, both in regular and bulk departments - but it may be a Québec thing. Have you looked in Loblaws? Their bulk section here is quite good.
(oops sorry folks, FYI only...Loblaws is a Canadian grocery chain)
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03/09/2002 3:58 AM
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Um Rubrick, to answer your question...  a French letter is a capotte anglaise in French. A question for you though...what is French underwear?
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03/09/2002 3:58 PM
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Ya llegé. Yo no quiero morir de un ataque de corazón,
I just got here. I don't want to die from a heart attack
entonces, desde ahorita, no vuelvo hablar Inglés.
so, from now on, I wont go back to speaking English
A ver. ¿Qué dice Ænigma?
Let's see what Ænigma says
Ya [Yagi] llegé. [Lloyd] Yo [Yoder] no quiero [quiescent] morir [Morley] de un [unabated] ataque [Atari] de corazón, [Corbett]
entonces, [entrance] desde [desecrate] ahorita, [aid] no vuelvo [Vulcan] hablar [hack] Inglés. [ingot]
A ver. [Vera] ¿Qué [qua] dice Ænigma? [nihilism]
¡ADM!
OMG!
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03/09/2002 5:47 PM
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Who calls them French Letters? And who needs to hang out on the playground these days when you can learn everything in the world on AWAD?
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03/10/2002 1:00 AM
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Ah Musick. Please...do not...resist...! I love salacious puns. [smirk-e]
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03/10/2002 1:02 AM
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Allo bel...I buy my nuts in bulk from a local health food store called Tara Natural Foods. I would imagine they have a fairly decent turnover....I hate making endless shopping trips so I buy a whack o' nuts at a time, but perhaps I should start buying a week's worth instead of several weeks's worth....
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03/10/2002 3:36 PM
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It wasn't the pun I was resisting...
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03/10/2002 5:28 PM
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>After the war the world became a smaller place and exotic foods suddenly flooded into Britain and Ireland ena masse
But Ireland already had palms (this is true, there are several parks in Irealnd with palms growing in them). Leading to the saying, "with fronds like these, who needs ena masse."
TEd
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03/10/2002 5:30 PM
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TEd
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03/10/2002 5:32 PM
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TEd
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03/10/2002 5:33 PM
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Oh how I hope that's not like whack a mole.
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03/10/2002 9:37 PM
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they have a fairly decent turnover....
Yup. Apple and cinnamon.
I wouldn't fritter away my time thinking up such stuff. I'm much more interested in French underwear. And I've long wondered why Porky Pig advocates feminine hygiene at the end of his cartoons. Have you noticed his closing with, "Bidet - bidet - that's all, folks?" Well, that's how it sounds to me...
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03/10/2002 11:35 PM
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Oh, you-all, I am rolling! Gasping for breath! Oh, ha, ha! mg, don't let the guys hear you talking about whacking nuts! musick...never mind, I'm gonna have to send this PRIVATE! Bidet, bidet...
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03/10/2002 11:38 PM
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why? what's wrong with whacking nuts? [innocent/angelic-e]
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03/11/2002 3:30 AM
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why? what's wrong with whacking nuts?
What? Didn't you ever read Fitzgerald's story, Tender is The Nuts? And there used to be a painful security company called Whackanut, if I recall.
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03/11/2002 12:20 PM
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In Brazil, it's called castanha do Pará, after the Amazon-region state where the trees are most prevalent. Here's a link on how Brazil nuts are harvested: http://www.amazonconservation.org/home/brazilnuts.htmlAnd yes, I also freeze all my nuts, unshelled, slivered or whatever.
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