in NY there is Down State ==NYC(even a Down State Medical School here in NYC.) everything out side of NYC is Up State.. (for NYC anyway!) but check with Faldage or Angel.. that might not be true Up State.

inside the city.. there is down town, and up town.. and the bridge and tunnel crowd. the bridge and tunnel crowd are those who do not live on Manhattan island.. and get into Manhattan by bridge or tunnel.

for out of towners, Manhattan is NY. for NY State, too, since Manhattan is NY county. Other boroughs are other counties. (NYC has 5 state counties, 7 main post offices, (3 in queen, 1 in each other borough) over 1000 islands, of which apx. 25 are occupied, not counting the former island that are now part of the mainland, (coney island, ie).


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