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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread Lost the meaning? #58815 02/26/2002 8:52 PM Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 2 PA, USA Anshul Gupta stranger Anshul Gupta stranger Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 2 PA, USA Came across the word 'LESE' which so many dictionaries describe as 'to lose' Is this a new word , or did I just not come across it before? Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Lost the meaning? #58816 02/26/2002 8:55 PM Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,542 this too shall pass tsuwm Carpal Tunnel tsuwm Carpal Tunnel Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,542 this too shall pass um... you've never come across lese majesty? Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Lost the meaning? #58817 02/26/2002 9:04 PM Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 2 PA, USA Anshul Gupta stranger Anshul Gupta stranger Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 2 PA, USA sorry to say - but no.... anyway can you help further and demonstrate a use...? Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Lost the meaning? #58818 02/26/2002 9:05 PM Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 13,858 wwh Carpal Tunnel wwh Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 13,858 Or a bit more authentically "lèse majesté". A crime against the sovreign, offense against a ruler's dignity, treason. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter . #58819 02/26/2002 9:18 PM Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 3,409 Max Quordlepleen Carpal Tunnel Max Quordlepleen Carpal Tunnel Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 3,409 Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Lost the meaning? #58820 02/26/2002 9:36 PM Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 477 Sydney, Australia hev addict hev addict Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 477 Sydney, Australia 'LESE' which so many dictionaries describe as 'to lose' Is this a new word , or did I just not come across it before? WELCOME Anshul! It's not a new word ... \Lese\ (l[=e]z), v. t. To lose. [Obs.] --Chaucer. Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc. The Macquarie (Australian) dictionary only has the following: lese-majesty // noun Law 1. any of various crimes or offences against the sovereign power in a state. 2. (humorous) any presumptuous conduct. [French, from Latin: injured sovereignty] It's obviously not a commonly used word though - my Microsoft spellchecker doesn't like it. Hev Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Lost the meaning? #58821 02/27/2002 1:20 AM Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 2,605 Keiva Carpal Tunnel Keiva Carpal Tunnel Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 2,605 Stupid wild-ass guess here: could lese be related to the suffix -less? Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Lost the meaning? #58822 02/27/2002 1:53 AM Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 163 Rouspeteur member Rouspeteur member Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 163 For lese the OED has links to leash, lease, leach (obs. thin strips of meat) and the verb leese. From the definition of the obsolete verb leese: [A Com. Teut. strong vb.: OE. -léosan, only in compounds, beléosan, forléosan (-léas, -luron, -loren) corresponds to OFris. ur-liasa, OS. far-liosan (Du. ver-liezen), OHG. vir-liosan (MHG. verliesen, mod.G. verlieren, influenced by the pa. tense and pa. pple.), Goth. fra-liusan; other derivatives of the root (*leus-: laus-: los-) are leasing n., -less, loose a. and v., lose v., loss. The root *leus- is usually regarded as an extension of the *leu-, *lu- in Gr. kÊ-eim, L. so-lv-Sre to loosen.] 1. trans. = lose, in its various senses; to part with or be parted from by misadventure, through change in conditions, etc.; to be deprived of; to cease to possess; to fail to preserve, or maintain; to fail to gain or secure; to fail to profit by, to spend (time) unprofitably; to use (labour) to no advantage. Also refl. a. In present stem. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Lost the meaning? #58823 02/27/2002 2:06 AM Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 2,605 Keiva Carpal Tunnel Keiva Carpal Tunnel Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 2,605 Looks like lese (in the original post of this thread) may not tie into lese majeste. The former, as Rouspeteur notes, traces back to teutonic tongues (as does the suffix -less), referring to "lost". But lese majeste comes from latin laesa or laesae, "injured", via middle french. tsuwm, am I missing something here? 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