> Are we just doing anything begining with "C" now?

Yeah, cut that out Wordwind - you can't just whip up any word in an extemporaneous or informal manner!

Anyway where was I... oh yes, I visited a 'cidery' down-under, and I have the sneeking feeling this is neologic, errhm, term. Does anyone have a dictionary which recognizes cidery? Is there such a thing as a whiskery too? :-)