#57948
02/26/2002 8:06 PM
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pantomath: What if someone called you a pantomath and you didn't know what it was?Well, it's either someone who counts pairs of pants for a living, or someone who does aerobic testing on athletes. 
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#57949
02/26/2002 10:21 PM
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It is like whe you go out with a large group of people and have to choose from the menu - I'm always so busy chatting that I only look at the menu at the last minute then wish I'd chosen the dish the person next to me chose.
Closing eyes and sticking a pin:
g. gobsmacked
m. Golden Ratio
r. irony (of course)
w. pantomath
p. triboluminescence (only because I now know
that life savers taste like moth-balls).
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#57950
02/27/2002 12:03 AM
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at the last minute then wish I'd chosen the dish the person next to me chose.
A pretty analogy, jo. In effect you're saying -- and I agree -- that we can't go wrong with any of the choices; all are excellent.
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#57951
02/27/2002 5:09 PM
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For those who would like to view it, "time on my hands" has a continuation thread...all part of the same process, and they belong together: 1. b. (a continuation) "TIME for a new thread, people" Q & A 8/19/01 http://wordsmith.org/board/showflat.pl?Cat=&Board=words&Number=37382
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#57952
02/27/2002 7:28 PM
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triboluminescence
pantomath
octothorpe
pleonasm
dipsetic
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#57953
02/27/2002 11:51 PM
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OK, although my gut tells me to go with cornobbled and gobsmacked, I think they've already both won. So with the belief that those are already as good as in, I cast my fate thusly: fungible
pleonasm
empath
mustelid Why didn't I nominate muskstick when I had my chance?and irony, chiefly because there are a lot of people (incl A.Morrissette) who really need to understand that one more clearly. So when do the polls close? Has a date already been arranged with Anu? Forgive me if I missed that information, I just got back and haven't quite caught up yet...
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#57954
02/28/2002 3:20 AM
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Once we get the list of words with definitions and sample sentences, I'll send that off to Anu and then he does what he will I guess.
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#57955
02/28/2002 1:11 PM
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cornobbled and gobsmacked, I think they've already both won.
Now hold up, here. I want to raise an official hand of protest: somebody's going to have to convince me that cornobbled is a real word. 'Till they do, I'm putting in a vote to veto it. (Not yelling and screaming, you understand--just want some verification, 'cause I don't trust that Mrs. Byrne as far as I can throw her...)
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#57956
02/28/2002 1:53 PM
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somebody's going to have to convince me that cornobbled is a real word....you understand--just want some verification, 'cause I don't trust that Mrs. Byrne as far as I can throw her...OK, Mz. Jackie, I hunted and hunted until finally I found this definition in a dictionary I'm writing... REALWORD: 1. a word of no usage until made famous by inclusion in tsuwm's list of useless words. 2. any word that Anu see's fit to print. 3. any word that more that fifty people agree means hit in the face with a flying fish. Thank you.
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#57957
02/28/2002 2:28 PM
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Okay. I'm finally casting my vote but I have to take issue with with two of the contending words.
Gobsmacked Hardly hogwash to me and quite general parlance amongst my peers (but it would be a privilege to see it posted as Word of the Day by Anu).
Demesne Ditto. Quite a common term for this neck of the woods (pun intended - with smug reference to a recent thread).
I'll balance off the votes by nominating five others from the list....
p. triboluminescence Cannot say it on its own let alone use it in a coherent sentence. HOGWASH!
enantiodromic - ditto! HOGWASH!
k. hermetic - Love this one. It's like a cross between a hermeseta and a tic-tac. HOGWASH!
c. anacampserote - some sort of a compote? HOGWASH!
h. dipsetic Quite a dispeptic word! HOGWASH!
And this concludes the vote from the Irish jury........ [nil point emoticon]
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#57958
02/28/2002 8:36 PM
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To squelch any rumors that one vote doesn't matter, I'll share with you the current leaders in the vote tally.
1. triboluminescence - 11 votes
2. (tie) gobsmacked, dipsetic - 9 votes
4. cornobbled - 8 votes
5. (tie) pantomath, enantiodromic - 7 votes
7. pleonasm - 6 votes
8. anacampserote - 5 votes
9. (tie) Golden Ratio, octothorpe - 4 votes
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#57959
02/28/2002 8:48 PM
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1) Time2) Time3) Time 4) Time 5) Time    We were running out of time 
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#57960
02/28/2002 8:48 PM
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I'm afraid Jackie has a good point regarding cornobbled; not only are we split on the meaning, but we will be hard pressed to find citations (outside of right cheer, which seems a tad... incestuous). http://home.mn.rr.com/wwftd/
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02/28/2002 9:39 PM
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cornobbledThis is the only online citation I could find for cornobbled. But it's not substantiated, just listed with, I might add, a treasure trove of other wonderfully worthless words, tsuwm! You have to click on the cached link under the hit because the actual url is too unwieldy and I can't pull "shorter link" up right now. http://google.com/search?hl=en&q=slang cornobbled&btnG=Google Search[re-edit: link's working again, must've been that slow-down here, yesterday] [edit: evidently the link is not bringing the page up...so....type slang cornobbled into Google, you'll get one hit. Then click on the cached link.]I'm almost certain that cornobbled is listed in the Slang and Everyday Speech section of Marc McCutcheon's magnificient study, A Writer's Guide to Everyday Life in the 1800's, which is readily available for sale online, but not for perusal. However, I don't have access to the book until the historic village library reopens in May. So I guess it's off to the good ol' library! A good university library is sure to have this work, for those of you with nearby or on-site access.
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#57962
03/01/2002 2:32 AM
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which seems a tad... incestuous).Oh, come now, brother...  
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#57963
03/01/2002 3:24 AM
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hich seems a tad... incestuous).jackie: Oh, come now, brother... One is not surprised that a Kentuckian would be expert on that subject.
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#57964
03/01/2002 11:44 AM
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Ah hain't touchin' that 'un...
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#57965
03/05/2002 6:46 PM
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Ok, all y'all blokes, looks like this is the finalist final list:
triboluminescence, gobsmacked, dipsetic, cornobbled and enantiodromic.
alternate - pantomath
Though there was a tie for 5th place, I decided that pantomath is looks very similar to this week's philomath, so for variety, the place will go to enantiodromic. The alternate will go in if we can't find enough support for the eligibility of cornobbled.
Tsuwm, could you provide simple definitions and etymologies from the OED? or is simple OED an oxymoron?
We'll also need sentences for the words, so if anyone can find good sources, it would be appreciated, or we could just make up our own. What do you think?
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#57966
03/05/2002 7:23 PM
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I go with the list, go for it, JazzO!
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#57967
03/05/2002 7:39 PM
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We'll also need sentences for the words, so if anyone can find good sources, it would be appreciated, or we could just make up our own. What do you think?
What sources could be found that would care as much as this group? Let us make up our own.
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03/05/2002 7:45 PM
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okay, jazz. I'll start posting what I have tomorrow. I think I'll put each word in its own thread so that we can collect comments and suggest cites in an orderly fashion -- won't that be different. http://home.mn.rr.com/wwftd/
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03/05/2002 8:16 PM
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I found a citation for cornobble d on the new http://Ixquick.com search engine from, guess what?... the Balderdash Dictionary! cornobbled -- Punched with the fist. http://www.piggle.com/baldc.htmThat's a reputable source...right, tsuwm? AND, somebody else's Balderdash game: Balderdash!
Cornobbled (kor-nawb-bulled)
Lynda-s says:
.really bad feet
MtnLionss says:
.cob after all the corn is gone
angel3 says:
.shucker
Cannoli says:
.Scarecrow gettin' some hot action
Kelster says:
.when you get your corn cob taken away
The answer is: Punched with the fist. http://trivia.org/q060301.htmAnd, by the way, WW's Alphatist post on the AWAD thread gets a hit on this search engine!!
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#57970
03/05/2002 8:26 PM
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I got 404ed when I tried your link so I stripped off the baldc.htm part and clicked on Balderdash and C and got there. Go figure.
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03/05/2002 8:40 PM
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but here's where we are with cornobbled (up to the minute): the only hard copy source for all of these folks (I believe) is Mrs. Byrne, who was misquoted by her own(?) site with "hit by a fis h". now I have found that 'nobble' (itself of obscure origin) has one sense meaning "to strike", and there is an old word 'cor' which is a salt fish/cod. plus here is an e-mail that I received from C. H. Elster (author of "There's a Word for It") My apologies for the long delay in responding about "cornobbled." Stuff
and the holidays and then more stuff got in the way and got me
backlogged.
I've exhausted my library and can't find hide nor hair of "cornobbled"
outside of Mrs. Byrne, which in both my 1984 paperback and 1994 hardcover
gives "fist." But "fish" could be right after all, because Webster 2
lists the obsolete noun "cor," defined as "salt fish, esp. cod." So
maybe Mrs. Byrne slipped up.
I'll bet Joseph Wright's English Dialect Dictionary has the word, but I
don't own that. I borrowed it from the UCSD library when I was writing
There's a Word for It.which all leaves me gobsmacked, I must say. EDIT: well, that was fun.. I just spoke with the INFO desk at the MPL and Mr. Wright wrote that cornobble means "to beat on" -- *his source was a glossary of Cotswald dialect and the word is dated 1896.
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03/05/2002 8:40 PM
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Thanks, tsuwm. What would we be without you? I wish I could help further.
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03/05/2002 9:40 PM
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a thought on cornobbled
I've been thinkin early US slang all along...but if it's in the Balderdash Dictionary, it might just be old British slang, right?
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03/05/2002 9:47 PM
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>What would we be without you? oh, I dunno. just one yart after another? W'ON, note EDIT just above. http://home.mn.rr.com/wwftd/
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03/05/2002 11:48 PM
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" But "fish" could be right after all, because Webster 2
lists the obsolete noun "cor," defined as "salt fish, esp. cod." So
maybe Mrs. Byrne slipped up.
Slipped up???
Far be it for me to be argumentative, but somehow these thoughts seem to be, let us say, inconsistent.
Wasn't Mrs. Byrne the one who thought that "cornobbled" meant getting hit with a fish?
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03/06/2002 4:17 AM
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>Wasn't Mrs. Byrne the one who thought that "cornobbled" meant getting hit with a fish? no, no, no.... if you're guine to be argumentative you've got to pay more attention. Mrs. Byrne's dictionary reads "hit with a fist"; the web site which mirrors her dictionary read "hit with a fish" (this is where WW found it), and they've acknowledged their typo -- based on Wright's dictionary, she had it right in the book. the fish thing, it would appear, is just a... well, fishy coincidence. HTH. http://home.mn.rr.com/wwftd/
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#57977
03/07/2002 3:42 PM
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After submitting our prospective list to Anu, he said that he prefers that all of the words appear in at least some general use dictionary, and exceptions are only given for a very good reason. He also said that we should give him with 8-10 possibilities and then he provides the definition and citation.
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03/07/2002 4:03 PM
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well, I guess that rules out cornobbled. but is he saying the OED is NOT "general use"?? all of the others are in OED (triboluminescence is everywhere). I'll take down the separate threads, we weren't getting any response anyway. http://home.mn.rr.com/wwftd/
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03/07/2002 4:10 PM
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I guess I'll send him the list of the top ten vote getters. I still think it would be nice for us to make up our own sentences, though. Maybe he can just quote from our threads.
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03/07/2002 6:04 PM
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Go for it, Jazzo!...your the helmsman here...the top 10 sounds good...and thanks for getting this going! Looks like we got cornobbled one good by cornobble, huh?
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