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okay, jazz. I'll start posting what I have tomorrow. I think I'll put each word in its own thread so that we can collect comments and suggest cites in an orderly fashion -- won't that be different. http://home.mn.rr.com/wwftd/
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I found a citation for cornobble d on the new http://Ixquick.com search engine from, guess what?... the Balderdash Dictionary! cornobbled -- Punched with the fist. http://www.piggle.com/baldc.htmThat's a reputable source...right, tsuwm? AND, somebody else's Balderdash game: Balderdash!
Cornobbled (kor-nawb-bulled)
Lynda-s says:
.really bad feet
MtnLionss says:
.cob after all the corn is gone
angel3 says:
.shucker
Cannoli says:
.Scarecrow gettin' some hot action
Kelster says:
.when you get your corn cob taken away
The answer is: Punched with the fist. http://trivia.org/q060301.htmAnd, by the way, WW's Alphatist post on the AWAD thread gets a hit on this search engine!!
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I got 404ed when I tried your link so I stripped off the baldc.htm part and clicked on Balderdash and C and got there. Go figure.
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but here's where we are with cornobbled (up to the minute): the only hard copy source for all of these folks (I believe) is Mrs. Byrne, who was misquoted by her own(?) site with "hit by a fis h". now I have found that 'nobble' (itself of obscure origin) has one sense meaning "to strike", and there is an old word 'cor' which is a salt fish/cod. plus here is an e-mail that I received from C. H. Elster (author of "There's a Word for It") My apologies for the long delay in responding about "cornobbled." Stuff and the holidays and then more stuff got in the way and got me backlogged.
I've exhausted my library and can't find hide nor hair of "cornobbled" outside of Mrs. Byrne, which in both my 1984 paperback and 1994 hardcover gives "fist." But "fish" could be right after all, because Webster 2 lists the obsolete noun "cor," defined as "salt fish, esp. cod." So maybe Mrs. Byrne slipped up.
I'll bet Joseph Wright's English Dialect Dictionary has the word, but I don't own that. I borrowed it from the UCSD library when I was writing There's a Word for It.which all leaves me gobsmacked, I must say. EDIT: well, that was fun.. I just spoke with the INFO desk at the MPL and Mr. Wright wrote that cornobble means "to beat on" -- *his source was a glossary of Cotswald dialect and the word is dated 1896. http://home.mn.rr.com/wwftd/
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Thanks, tsuwm. What would we be without you? I wish I could help further.
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a thought on cornobbled
I've been thinkin early US slang all along...but if it's in the Balderdash Dictionary, it might just be old British slang, right?
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>What would we be without you? oh, I dunno. just one yart after another? W'ON, note EDIT just above. http://home.mn.rr.com/wwftd/
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" But "fish" could be right after all, because Webster 2 lists the obsolete noun "cor," defined as "salt fish, esp. cod." So maybe Mrs. Byrne slipped up.
Slipped up???
Far be it for me to be argumentative, but somehow these thoughts seem to be, let us say, inconsistent. Wasn't Mrs. Byrne the one who thought that "cornobbled" meant getting hit with a fish?
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>Wasn't Mrs. Byrne the one who thought that "cornobbled" meant getting hit with a fish? no, no, no.... if you're guine to be argumentative you've got to pay more attention. Mrs. Byrne's dictionary reads "hit with a fist"; the web site which mirrors her dictionary read "hit with a fish" (this is where WW found it), and they've acknowledged their typo -- based on Wright's dictionary, she had it right in the book. the fish thing, it would appear, is just a... well, fishy coincidence. HTH. http://home.mn.rr.com/wwftd/
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After submitting our prospective list to Anu, he said that he prefers that all of the words appear in at least some general use dictionary, and exceptions are only given for a very good reason. He also said that we should give him with 8-10 possibilities and then he provides the definition and citation.
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