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#5759 08/30/00 12:31 AM
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>>I have met too many people who sincerely believe, and angrily insist, that "history" is a gender biased word. Talk about PC gone nuts!

Max, Max--calm down, Dear! I put "HIS"tory like as a reference back to the thread where this has been discussed, mulled, and chewed over. Unfortunately, I can't find it, or I'd tell you where to look. You have a lot of people on your side, Hon.






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max, max, max... once again you are a day late and a dollar short! all of these issues -- PC-ness & herstory & niggardly -- were covered under "political correctness" in Q&A. (but be forewarned; it is a LONG thread)



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>>My dear Jackie, je suis desolé! I did not mean to imply that I took you for one of these criminals. It's just that you unintentionally pushed one of my biggest buttons, or waved a particularly carmine rag in front of this bull.

Calme-toi, Cheri! I did not mean to imply that I thought you took me for a criminal.
I advise you in all earnestness to read the thread aforementioned, now that Tsuwm has made it easy to find.
(Thank you, Tsu.)


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#5764 08/30/00 03:35 AM
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I cannot resist this!
>>I realised that I was undoubtedly haranguing the converted

I sing in the choir, so I'm used to being preached to!

Max, Max, Max, MAX!! You've "maxed out" on your apologies, Dude! Enough already !!


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In reply to:

one of the gnostic scriptures (read apocrypha) is "The gospel according to Mary", which gives a very different picture of Mary Magdalene -- one of a disciple rather than a prostitute and supplicant, and a very different view of women in that time.

as always, the question to be asked is: why was this suppressed?


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I don't know what, if any, research Ms. King did, but her reason given in the novel was that it was suppressed in order to maintain male dominance (or the appearance of it).


The Gospel According to Mary exists in a very fragmentary state (a translation is here http://www.webcom.com/gnosis/library/marygosp.htm ) so we can't really say what view of women of that time it gives. We have to beware of reading modern preoccupations back into other past societies. I'm not saying they never mentioned the power relations between the sexes or that males were not dominant, just that it wasn't a major issue for them, more of an undiscussed assumption.

I suspect that the reason the Gospel of Mary was "suppressed" or not included in the canon was more to do with the nature of the spirit journey that seems to be being described with the soul having to meet challenges from powers and so on, which does not really fit in with Christianity as it was developing at the time the canon was being fixed.


I was interested to see the spellcheck wants to change "an undiscussed assumption" into "an undisturbed assumption".


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>>This is NOT an apology, rather an explanation.

My dear short-nailed (likewise) friend--
that was a joke, just so you know. I had hoped you would post an apology for over-apologizing, at which point I
planned to thoroughly exercize my predilection for fussing!
(Fussing is one of my favorite hobbies--just ask my family, they'll tell you!) I have even been accused of spluttering!


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>after reading about the creation of the universe in both the Bible and Edith Hamilton's Mythology, it appears that both are quite similar.<

I checked out Edith Hamilton's 'Mythology' on Amazon. It is based on the Greek and Roman myths.
Roman civilisation drew heavily from Greek civilisation. Christianity originated in Rome. All are part of 'Western' civilisation.
I'd say similarities are not so much coincidence as signs of common ancestry. Perhaps you should explore the creation myths of some other civilisations? Native American? Chinese? Aborigine? I don't know any of them in enough detail, but I think they're more different.

BTW, I believe the 'great flood' in many western mythologies including the Bible is meant to be based on the creation of the Meiterranean. Originally dry land below sea level, then the Straits of Gibraltar 'opened' and there was a very big waterfall for a while.


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