Well, helen, let me just point out that I have been trying to reach you for 4 days, without response. You apparently prefer to rant your views without checking your facts.
Fact 1: If you view those anonymous posts as just wordplay, not as attacks directed at any particular person, I direct you to mav's post today, saying, "Perhaps he needs more of it. [notwink]" (post #56907)
Fact 2: Yes, I certainly did want to know if the anonymous post of "[E.A.]" might be Elizabeth's initials -- as possible aid to indentifying the anonymous poster. Is it your preference that the poster remain unidentified?
Since this seems to go on and on without end, like a dog returning to its own vomit, I have this to say to you clearly Keiva:
I am completely sick and tired of the effect your flaggellant self-obsession is having on this board, and will be having nothing more to do with you or any of your posts in the remotely forseeable future. Others will make their own judgements, of course.
I'm with you Mav. What is your problem Keiva? You really are full of s***.
You've got some ******* axe to grind with something and someone but nobody else gives a s***. From now on I'm having nothing to do with your childish and immature posts.
Against my better wishes I am editing the language of this post out of respect for and by request of the decent members of this board. I apologise to anyone who may have been offended by this but the strong sentiment still stands. Peace to everyone on this board who stays for educated and FUN posting.
marvirulent, the problem is not me; I'm merely responding to your nastiness.
Do you expect the freedom to post comments like "Keiva, if you insist on being merely a stupid pompous asshole, why don't you just piss off" -- and expect to be immune from reply?
If it's acceptable for you to make comments like that, then ...
I have been ignoring any posts or PMs from Keiva and will continue to do so. I will also, unless directed to one by someone whose judgment I value, avoid any threads that he has started.
Yes Mav, and now, once again, some one has put up as evidence a post you deleted, weeks ago.. like a dog returning to its own vomit as you so aptly said.
i guess your deleting it was not enough.. you seemed to have failed to grovel.
Well that's, OK--I don't expect any one here to grovel!
Take a hint you *******. You are full of s*** and people are sick of it. What does it take to make you shut up and go away you good for nothing piece of s***?
helen, the gentleman deleted that nastiness only after it had been seen -- and later specifically reaffirmed his sentiment by PM to me. I gave him a polite chance to thus "shred the evidence" of his spittle, in order to make peace. He has chosen otherwise.
Keiva, I've beginning to suspect you are dealing with some deep-seated psychological issues that creating disputes on this board is not going to help. While that's none of my business, I do note you've managed to blow things out of proportion and managed to fight with at least a dozen of us for reasons I cannot fathom. Every single dispute currently on this board involves you. Perhaps you should (re-)read "I'm OK, You're OK" and stop and reflect. You've brought discord to this board and I for one would be happy to see you depart [E.A.] until you've gotten some professional help /meds, whatever it takes (it took meds for me, I'm not ashamed to admit. Depression and other mental illnesses are REAL and should be treated). Right now your behavior is that of a self-serving hypocrite (insulting one minute, sucking up the next) and you are ruining things for those of us who would like to discuss words. I also do not intend to address you again until you do something about this.
As an 'infrequent poster', i hope my $.02 won't be unwelcome here.
i have precious little time to spend on the Board, and on days like today when i find the time to log in for a 'quick fix', i am positively disgusted to find that not one but *several* threads are full of venom, all connected to a single person.
keiva, i don't know what your problems are, and i frankly don't have the time or energy to ponder them, but if truly want what's good for this board (and may i humbly point out that, despite your alarmingly numerous posts, you haven't been here all that long), i beseech you to take your own advice, in one of two ways:
(1) either leave the Board, as you promised to do
or
(2) create another "alias", and join us anew with positive contributions instead of vitriol. newcomers are welcomed with open arms, here, and even if some of us finally figure out that it's you, i can guarantee you'll be treated with courtesy and respect until such time as you revert to your old ways.
once you've dug yourself a hole this deep, you're not going to be able to climb out. FWIW, i hope you *do create an alias and come back ~ you've made some excellent contributions to the board (aside from the ugliness), and that's what we're all here for.
but as both mav and hev have pointed out, your contrary posts (and the ugly responses they elicit, as evidenced above ) are almost akin to car accidents... somehow it's difficult not to look. i find myself alternately cheering for you ("he's GOT to wake up and smell the catfood soon, everyone's given him *so many chances -- and suggestions -- to just zip his lip and move on with the word stuff") and disgusted with you ("he's even attacking BEL'M, now? you must be kidding!"), but my overwhelming feeling with all this is resentment. i can't speak for anyone else, but i limit my time on AWAD to brief spells, and not even every day. on this day, for instance, i wasted nearly all of my allotted time reading this horrid thread and crafting this [unspellchecked/grammarchecked, forgive me] post, and i'm done with it.
add me to the list ~ i don't have time for negativity, and that's what you seem to be all about.
FWIW, i feel sorry for you; you must be a desperately unhappy person. i hope you get the help you need, and if/when you come back... and prove yourself, over time, to be a 'team player'[E.A.]... i'll be the first to defend you should anyone throw stones. but until then, you'll just be ignored by this ayleur.
As someone who has suffered the slings and arrows of your misdirected misfortune in public for no apparent reason, I have to say that at the least, I am afraid to interact with you anymore.
I've hesitated to enter this fray, but I have no agenda other than to maintain this as a refuge of intellectual inquiry and good-natured banter. I'm an infrequent poster too, and I've taken my sweet time attaining addict status, even though I've been addicted since I first looked in on the Board. I have, however, read almost every post that's been made since last January (flatliners unite!) and I've seen some squabbles erupt periodically, but nothing that didn't settle down in due time.
This, however, is entirely unlike that.
I was astonished to see your amused response to tsuwm's post of the 12 Commandments of Flaming. Didn't you see yourself in them at all? I don't presume to know tsuwm's intent, but I saw your actions reflected in almost all of the points made therein.
I don't understand what you're trying to prove. And I don't understand how continuing this tidal wave of venom is making anything better for you or anyone else. I've never had any personal interchange with you to make me a target for your anger, but I feel relatively certain that's about to change.
I also find it hard to understand how you can post a glowing public Valetine to David and Betsy on the Board one day (did you get their permisson?), when all the while you're plotting to trash Betsy the next day with your "Spammer" thread. Either you mean one or the other...but you can't mean both. Or were you just trying to make yourself look good in the eyes of the board for Valentine's Day?
I'm sending you by PM some information you would not have, which I think you will find a fully satisfactory answer and cause you to remove the question.
Edit; note to helen: let's wait until whit has the chance to see the information, shall we? You surely don't object to me trying to resolve his concern privately, before answering it in public?
Whit, why should someone ever want to remove a post? Why should someone want or expect you to remove a post?
If you did-- Would it matter? after all some one has seen your post-- I did, if no one else.
If you removed it, i might think you regretted, or somehow felt your post was inappropriate.. I mean it would almost be like you were apologizing for posting it in the first place. Even if you didn't come out and say so.
But I might not let it rest, i might post your post again and again, and comment again and again that you had asked a question! That way, if some one failed to see your post,(a post you might have made in haste, and realise was not the best) i could point it out.. by posting it my self!
You are free to delete it, as you wish, but i wonder why someone would ever be invited to delete a post, especially one that, by every appearence, did not seem to be hurtful.
Although Rubrick's words are not the one's I would use, in looking beyond them, there is sentiment that he *echoes quite accurately, IMHO of course.
I'm also inclined to agree with AnnaS' assesment, with one slight exception: I don't *suspect it. I'm just happy your attempts at resolving your internal 'control issues' (I hate to use those words, but in this case it's as *clear as I can make it) externally (specifically here) have failed and will fail, as they should. This is not the place for "it", and certainly not the place to establish the last word of some imaginary competition. It is obvious you and I (you and a lot of people, for that matter) have differences that will never be resolved, and it must be clear your attempts and methods at that are unwelcomed.
Sir, you are truly a wordsmith... you just happen to be building something considerably different than was the intent here. Silence wasn't one of them.
Well, Ken, in spite of the fact that I vowed I would never again respond to any of your posts, since you invite input, I repeat what I told you in private: your conduct on this board has been outrageous, unconscionable and unforgivable. Yes, there are others whose conduct and language is open to criticism Shame on you, Rubrick! but that doesn't excuse you. It's a pity, because, as I have told you, I have enjoyed many of your contributions. But you have this axe that you insist on grinding, you can't just call it a day and start over, and you insist on trying (totally without success) to justify yourself. You just can't shut up about how you are misunderstood and misused, and you keep on getting in digs at other members and trying to line up allies and, in general, sowing discord.
Do you now, at long last, have the idea: WE DON'T WANT TO HEAR/READ IT ANY MORE !!!
If, as you claim, AWAD means something positive to you, shut up totally (I don't say, as I was first going to say, go away.) If you can get yourself in a positive state of mind, I suggest maybe you might want to take the suggestion made above and rejoin under a different name, because I assure you that I, like others, will not respond to any message or read any post with the name Keiva.
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) are almost akin to car accidents... somehow it's difficult not to look. i find myself alternately cheering for you ("he's GOT to wake up and smell the catfood soon, everyone's given him *so many chances -- and suggestions -- to just zip his lip and move on with the word stuff") and disgusted with you ("he's even attacking BEL'M, now? you must be kidding!"), but my overwhelming feeling with all this is resentment. i can't speak for anyone else, but i limit my time on AWAD to brief spells, and not even every day. on this day, for instance, i wasted nearly all of my allotted time reading this horrid thread and crafting this [unspellchecked/grammarchecked, forgive me] post, and i'm done with it.
