#56664
03/05/2002 7:08 PM
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Love of learning vs. love of wisdom.
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#56665
03/05/2002 8:15 PM
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Dear Faldage: Many learned people are not wise. But few wise people are unlearned.
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#56666
03/05/2002 8:30 PM
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So a philosoph will be a philomath but a philomath need not be a philosoph.
Need the learning be formal?
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#56667
03/05/2002 8:50 PM
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The wisest man I ever knew was educated in the College of Hard Knocks. But also read a lot, with underatanding.
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#56668
03/06/2002 11:18 AM
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Did you guys really think I'd leave this one alone? Ithyphallic, coupled with T. S. Elliot's "...not with a bang,..."? ROTFLMAO
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03/06/2002 2:19 PM
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Dear Keiva: And do you remember the neurophysiology behind the vulgar taunt: I hope you die ithyphallic?
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03/06/2002 4:29 PM
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Remember no; understand, yes! (And you aren't talking about "as in the movie Private Benjamin".)
Well, ithy or ithn't ty?
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#56672
03/06/2002 8:51 PM
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A good word to drop at a cocktail party.....or maybe at a parade. " For Zeus' sake, Socrates, start the procession while I'm still ithyphallic." 
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#56673
03/08/2002 1:56 PM
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could the antonym be moribund ?
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03/08/2002 2:52 PM
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Moribund? Dear boronia, you must be Joke-und.jocund
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03/08/2002 2:54 PM
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I confess, there was a time when I was more rotund than jocund
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03/08/2002 3:15 PM
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Dear boronia: I hope that no sorrow may obtund your sense of humor.
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03/08/2002 3:21 PM
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now I am stun(ne)d -- what is obtund??
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03/08/2002 3:47 PM
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ob[tund 79b tund$8
vt.
5ME obtunden < L obtundere, to strike at, blunt < ob3 (see OB3) + tundere, to strike < IE *(s)teud3, to strike > STOCK6 to make blunt or dull; make less acute; deaden
Dear boronia, I hope annyonce did not make your countenace rubicund.
ru[bi[cund 7r14b! kund#8
adj.
5Fr rubicond < L rubicundus < ruber, RED6 reddish; ruddy
ru#bi[cun4di[ty 73kun4d! tc8
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#56679
03/08/2002 4:02 PM
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darn - can't think of any more UND words with which to reboUND!
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03/08/2002 4:08 PM
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Take your dictionary back and ask for a refund.
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#56681
03/08/2002 4:22 PM
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you seem to have a rather fecund mind - bravo
(do you have any friends named Edmund?)
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#56682
03/08/2002 4:46 PM
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Dear borovia: you win. I couldn't think of fecund. Perhaps that's because only female things can be fecund.
My mind may be f'd up, but not capable of being impregnated. And my testosterone levels are so low, my voice is no longer orotund.
No basso profund-o am I.
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#56683
03/08/2002 5:06 PM
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Oh, Dr bill i wish i could give you some of my testosterone!
now that my estrogen levels are falling, i am slowly turning into a circus freak show item.. the great bearded lady!
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#56684
03/08/2002 5:37 PM
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at lunch I walked by a store with a bridal display - and the groom wore a CUMMERBUND!
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03/08/2002 9:27 PM
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Dear boronia: So corny I'm ashamed to use it, from the same continent as "cummerbund" ks
bund
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5Anglo-Ind < Hindi band, embankment, dike < Pers b9nd9r, harbor6 in India and the Far East, an embankment or quay, or an embanked road along a waterfront
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#56686
03/08/2002 10:47 PM
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Let us be verecund in all things, never orotund. He or she who may disagree has an orbotund head.
Confession: the above came from a rhyming dictionary, not from my brain.
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03/08/2002 11:07 PM
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According to http://www.dictionary.com, verecund can be found in Websters (1913), but the definition there seems contractory: rashful; modest. The best I can find elsewhere indicates "modest", but can we get OED confirmation?
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#56688
03/08/2002 11:25 PM
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Dear Keiva: Nice find. New to me. Dictionary of Difficult words gives "shy". Your "rashful" obviously should be bashful.
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#56689
03/09/2002 5:56 PM
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Hey, boronia: We both forgot "gerund".
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#56690
03/11/2002 2:58 PM
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Perhaps it might be interesting to compare "ukase" with "ex cathedra".
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#56691
03/12/2002 2:56 PM
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Two's company, a troika is a crowd.
x-bonus Quote from Josh Billings. Another forgotten newspaper great, like Peter Finley Dunn.
Here's another of his:When I was a boy of fourteen, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be twenty-one, I was astonished at how much the old man had learned in seven years.
I remember seeing this attributed to Mark Twain.
Later I found it attributed to Josh Billings.
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#56692
03/13/2002 3:53 PM
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In the new Russian government, I wonder how much activity there is in samizdat.
I still cherish the observation:" No Izvestia in Pravda and no Pravda in Izvestia "
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03/14/2002 8:42 PM
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What in hell can anybody do with a word like "glasnost"? It sounds like "glass nosed" but what can be done with that?
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03/15/2002 3:19 AM
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Glasnost by itself isn't good for much, Bill, but combine it with perestroika and we can all relive the Cold War. They go together like Quemoy and Matsu.
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03/15/2002 4:51 AM
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it's my considered opinion that Anu missed out on the chance to gloss one of the most interesting Russian words of all: poshlost /POSH lust/ a well-rounded, untranslatable whole made up of banality, vulgarity and sham; it applies not only to obvious trash (verbal and animate), but also to spurious beauty, spurious importance, spurious cleverness... http://home.mn.rr.com/wwftd/
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#56696
03/15/2002 1:27 PM
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Anu missed out on the chance to gloss one of the most interesting Russian words of all: poshlost
Don't blame it on Anu-- the guest AWADer this week is Rudy Chelminski. I agree, by the way, that poshlost would have been a much more interesting WAD than nyet.
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03/15/2002 2:02 PM
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There are a couple points of interest here. The way "nyet" is used in the example, it is a noun. But ordinarily, according to my dictionary, it is an adverb. And English "no" is an adverb, which I did not kinow before.
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03/15/2002 3:04 PM
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>Don't blame it on Anu... why not? he's been dictating to jazzo on our list. http://home.mn.rr.com/wwftd/
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03/15/2002 4:20 PM
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Dear slithy: I'll bet few members remember what Quemoy and Matsu refer to.
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03/15/2002 4:36 PM
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>I'll bet few members remember... define 'few'. http://home.mn.rr.com/wwftd/
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03/15/2002 5:12 PM
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Dear tsuwm: the last time Quemoy and Matsu were in news was in Eisenhower administration, I think. And then briefly enough to be readily forgettable. So if ten percent of board members remember them, I'd be mildly surprised. A URL about it: http://www.nytimes.com/learning/general/specials/elections/1960/editorial1.html
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03/15/2002 5:56 PM
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>So if ten percent of board members remember them, I'd be mildly surprised. well, since not even close to 10% of board members participate (and then there's all those split-personalities), it's going to be a rough go, statistically speaking. but then we're a pretty old bunch. I remember them well; fallout shelters too. http://home.mn.rr.com/wwftd/
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03/15/2002 6:07 PM
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I remember.
The Few. The Proud. The Ugly.
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We probed this word thoroughly last October.
