#56583
02/15/2002 8:28 PM
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We're often confused !I just love it when Faldage uses the "mad" non-smiley (the only one he ever uses, if I may speak for him) as a joke.
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#56584
02/15/2002 8:48 PM
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i just love it when faldage uses the imperial "we" as in We are not amused..
its so kind of you, anna, to make your home with a slightly befuddled man.
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#56585
02/15/2002 9:00 PM
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the imperial "we" as in We are not amused..That was Dr. Bill and I who are often confused. And I am not *slightly befuddled !
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#56586
02/15/2002 9:18 PM
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There, there Faldage, what are you and Dr. Bill confused about  . It all seems pretty self evident to me...definitely a case of prolepsic paralipsis. (thanks Cara for the brilliant explanation)
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02/15/2002 9:18 PM
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Dear Faldage: I am constantly confused. I seldom merit comparison with you.
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02/15/2002 9:38 PM
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laughing their asses off at the irony that the subject can't protest without admitting he's a deranged nutter for imagining such behaviour?
mav, they may be "laughing their asses off", but they merely demonstrate that they lack sufficicent confidence in their argument to subject it to open debate. Howevermuch they enjoy thinking themselves clever, they in fact show the reader that they have nothing better to offer than rhetoric and adjectives. Hence their "subject" need not trouble to refute; res ipsa loquitur.
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#56589
02/15/2002 9:48 PM
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#56590
02/15/2002 10:01 PM
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>I do not think that t[h]is describes the man...
max, thank you; I'd nearly forgotten that this discussion was in regards to a real person.
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#56591
02/15/2002 10:09 PM
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I'd nearly forgotten that this discussion was in regards to a real person.
or two
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#56592
02/15/2002 10:53 PM
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But I wonder what this guy's life is going to be like now.
Will people around him think "ha, good for you James you sure suckered that big corporation," OR "our tax money is paying that a**h**e James." My money’s on the latter.
Will strangers on the street call him an idiot or will they totally ignore him.
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#56593
02/15/2002 11:16 PM
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#56594
02/16/2002 12:12 AM
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the break up our telephone monopoly, Ma Bell (Bell Telephone) was supposed to lower costs, increase services, and the best thing since slice bread.
well, cost are lower for the provider, but not to the user-- since now the unregulated companies can pass on the cost of advertizing, and they do lots!
service better? different--partly because of Cellphones, DSL and other new ways to charge more for new services.
has the comsumer (or stockholder) benefitted? no. long distance services are slightly cheaper, but household service stinks, and cost a fortune. the baby bells have recombined (NYNEX (new york &New England) has merged, NJ/MD/DE(atlantic,) merged with Southern (carolinas and georgia, which then merge with NYNex to Verizon, which then bought a big cell company, and 40% of Ma Bell is one company again..
one of the small bells, decided to go hi tech to compete with Verizon, and made big investment in Optical Cable.. and then went bankrupt-- and many small stockholder, used to the idea that utilities were safe, suddenly found themselves holding worthless paper.. lots of telephone companies have folded.. and if your phone service is provided by one, or if your network/webserver is served by one.. or if you invested in one ...don't go looking for a dial tone!
well, the as bad as NZ Telecom is, free market telecom is worse.. and as bad as my story is.. the stories i've heard about what has happened in UK, makes everything in US seem tame.. UK is the wild wild west of telecom horror stories!
do want a telephone number? would you like another? and how about changing it again in a few months.. and then, how about changing all the area codes, and then, not liking the change, change them again! some companies had 4 telephone numbers in 2 years time..
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#56595
02/16/2002 12:20 AM
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#56596
02/16/2002 4:56 PM
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Will strangers on the street call him an idiot or will they totally ignore him
That's an interesting question, bel - but are they mutually exclusive? Please forgive if this sounds remotely like a legalistic quibble (or two), but surely it's highly likely that all those people who recognise such an arrogant bastard for the sad sack he is, will both think of him as an idiot *and completely ignore him!
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#56597
02/16/2002 5:01 PM
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res ipsa loquitur.
Quite so, indeed®
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#56598
02/16/2002 5:45 PM
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You two never stop, do you?
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#56599
02/16/2002 5:55 PM
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I suspect his outrage was less compelling than his rage for publicity, and he got exactly what he bargained for.[E.A.]
when I first read this I wondered about that "E.A" and pondered briefly what it could mean, but quickly forgot about it. but when it was subsequently copied, complete with bolding, I considered the possibility that it could perhaps mean Emphasis Added.
-joe (no authority) friday
[with an assist to ron (three(3) times) obvious]
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#56600
02/16/2002 6:42 PM
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Interesting point about [EA] and [E.A.], tsuwm, which would fit well in spammer thread, whether those terms were noted.
A LIU reveals that the only names under which either of those phrases have ever been posted are gymkana, caradea and bridget96.
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#56601
02/16/2002 7:05 PM
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oh, so now you're no longer convinced it was ASp?? you really should stop throwing these accusations around, K.
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02/16/2002 7:20 PM
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no longer convinced it was ASp??
Who shall be the next culprit du jour[notsmart]?
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#56603
02/16/2002 7:25 PM
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Who shall be the next culprit du jour[notsmart]?
Well, when I searched for E.A. it showed that byb was the first to use it on the board.
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#56604
02/16/2002 7:58 PM
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naming names in accusationWhy am I suddenly reminded of Arthur Miller's "The Crucible" here? 
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#56605
02/16/2002 8:03 PM
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to tsuwm and faldage: do you now agree that we have a poltergiest, and are merely questioning who it may be?
And please note that as a careful lawyer I listed facts but took pains not to "accuse" -- yet. It would of course be premature to conclude until all had opportunity to review, critique and/or supplement the evidence presented. It would be good to see all facts that can best identify the culprit(s).
Have you any other facts to point to?
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Jazzo, our anagramic poster actually used [EA] and [E.A.], and I suspect you searched only the letters, without the brackets. [byw, BYB's use was quite different, was referring to Edgar Allen Poe.]
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For convenience, I am cross-linking this back into the previous discussion.
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#56606
02/16/2002 9:15 PM
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we have a poltergiest
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BYB . . . was referring to Edgar Allen Poe.
well??
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#56607
02/16/2002 10:02 PM
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02/17/2002 5:55 PM
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C'mon, TEd! I can see the pun around the word "paralipsis" from a mile away... I just can't make out the words from here!
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#56609
02/18/2002 1:24 AM
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Well, my paralipsis all Peggy remembers from our first date.
TEd
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#56610
02/18/2002 5:51 AM
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#56611
02/18/2002 7:26 AM
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Working for an itty-bitty telco as I do, it was interesting to note your post Max, to whit: Telecom NZ is privately, not state, owned. It is also widely loathed and resented here as the bully-boy monopolist, making very healty(sic) profits at the expense of its customers, and cynically crushing attempts at establishing real competition. It is held in the same sort of esteem that M$ is in the software world. I supect that most NZers are simply wishing that Telecom had so addressed them. (I know I am)Substitute Telecom for Telstra (the O$$ie equivalent) and you've got the situation here. Just add a bit of spin to what seems to be a widespread impression about monopolistic telco's and you have the key ingredient to a sales pitch! I never fail to mention in my opening remarks to prospective clients that we are a competitor to Telstra. You can just see them thinking, "I hate those arrogant bastards  , maybe these blokes are one way of not having to use Telstra anymore". Does anybody out there actually like their telephone service provider? (Our customers are excluded from this survey!)stales
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#56612
02/18/2002 12:36 PM
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Sure, I like Bell Canada. The service is good and the long distance rates are o.k. You can get different packages depending upons your use.
I'm sure there are some secondary companies that can offer you a savings of a dollar or so on long distance calls but generally you wind up having to dial some twelve numbers in addition to your usual.
I'm sure there are some people who have had a hard time with them but with 27 million people it's bound to happen.
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#56613
02/18/2002 12:49 PM
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a sales pitch!Or in your case...a stales pitch!
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02/18/2002 1:04 PM
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a stales pitch!
The pitcher worth a thousand words?
stalesy, second only to wordsworth [notgrin]
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#56615
02/18/2002 2:17 PM
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Does anybody out there actually like their telephone service provider?In Canada some of the phone companies are still Crown corporations. As for liking them - well, for an additional $20 a month on top of my local service rate, I get unlimited long distance during evenings and weekends within Canada. Since most people I talk to live elsewhere, and my family is known to be loquacious, that is the best deal in the world, as far as I can tell! 
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02/18/2002 4:53 PM
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a stales pitch!
mav: The pitcher worth a thousand words?
Ewer pitcher a worth a thousand words?
[Since my modification was fairly obvious, mav gets most of the credit for this pun; I get only a word's-worth.]
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#56617
02/19/2002 12:41 AM
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The latest uproar about Telstra is that a young boy died of an asthma attack - 10 days after his parents had asked for their telephone service to be fixed. They lived in a semi rural district and could not call out when he was struck by the fatal attack.
A tragic tale - and maybe unfair to blame Telstra (perceptions are distorted by grief) - but it serves as an example of how willing the media and public are to sink the slipper into big corportations around here.
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02/19/2002 11:35 AM
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sink the slipper
Whaaaa? [confused]
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02/19/2002 11:47 AM
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C'mon Bean - that was an easy one... "sink the slipper" To put in the boot / to kick! You should appreciate this URL - this, and a lot more Ozspeak expanded http://www.humour.com.au/sayings3.htmlstales
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02/19/2002 11:54 AM
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So are you saying people are unjustly upset (ie. kicking the telco while it's down)? That's the bit I don't get.
I've never kicked anyone with my slippers on either. (Slippers = soft comfy footwear to wear around the house, especially with pyjamas!) OK, never is a bit strong, but a bit of light Taekwondo sparring against my husband in the kitchen while waiting for water to boil doesn't count.
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#56621
02/19/2002 12:02 PM
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Sorry - I obviously deleted the reference to kicking whilst (Telstra) was down after you read it.
What I was trying to say in Strine was that perhaps it was unfair to be hasty in allocating blame to Telstra. People take whatever opportunity they can to speak against it - it's our iconoclastic nature.
I think it's the alliteration of the saying that appeals - rather than the practicalities of the image.
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02/19/2002 11:45 PM
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Yup, not very threatening, slippers. Usually pink fuzzy, floofy things. Often with bunny ears and cute button noses on the ends. Slipping somebody the slipper sound vaguely fetishy.
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