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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread Page 4 of 5 1 2 3 4 5 #5644 08/28/00 07:16 PM Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 3,409 M Max Quordlepleen OP Carpal Tunnel OP Max Quordlepleen Carpal Tunnel M Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 3,409 Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: u or non-u #5645 08/28/00 08:26 PM Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,542 this too shall pass tsuwm Carpal Tunnel tsuwm Carpal Tunnel Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,542 this too shall pass max, this exegesis (what a friend) is not going to be worth the disk space it eats up, but you did ask it as a favor, so what the heck. first, as a disclaimer, I never ever spell color with an 'e' or an 'a' (or with a supererogatory 'u' for that matter). now, here is my theory. it was either a typo or a brain-disconnect (it's a fine point). that's my theory. -anne elk p.s. - so which of us is supposed to feel spectacularly stapled at this point?? Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Virus as a neuter gender #5646 08/28/00 08:45 PM Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 1,094 Cincinnati & Loveland, Ohio, U... J Jazzoctopus old hand Jazzoctopus old hand J Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 1,094 Cincinnati & Loveland, Ohio, U... My pet peeve is that it is impossible to find Latin being taught at the high school level. Anyone have any thoughts on this? This, I believe, is more true with public schools. Cincinnati, with more than it's fair share of catholic schools, has a few that offer Latin. A good friend of mine took Latin. Unfortunately, the public school that I attend, though it is a very good one, does not offer Latin. I probably would have taken it were I given the choice, but due to the lack I went with German. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter #5647 08/28/00 10:09 PM Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 3,409 M Max Quordlepleen OP Carpal Tunnel OP Max Quordlepleen Carpal Tunnel M Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 3,409 Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: u or non-u #5648 08/28/00 10:36 PM Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,542 this too shall pass tsuwm Carpal Tunnel tsuwm Carpal Tunnel Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,542 this too shall pass >a subjective definion... I am fit to be tied -- "definion" is *way too anglicized for this poor yank! Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter #5649 08/28/00 10:49 PM Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 3,409 M Max Quordlepleen OP Carpal Tunnel OP Max Quordlepleen Carpal Tunnel M Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 3,409 Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: staples of cacography #5650 08/29/00 02:49 AM Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,542 this too shall pass tsuwm Carpal Tunnel tsuwm Carpal Tunnel Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,542 this too shall pass >caused by poor hand-eye coordination yes, it's truly amazing how often this particular mis-spell manifests itself! I often type it as defintion. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: ambulatory vowels #5651 08/29/00 03:16 AM Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 6,511 lower upstate New York AnnaStrophic Carpal Tunnel AnnaStrophic Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 6,511 lower upstate New York >>>the great vowel movement >> US Plans to Deploy Over 75,000 Vowels: Cities of Sjlbvdnzv, Grzny to Be First recipients. OK, tsuwm, *squaring off* where'd you find that? It's hilarious (taking no faint pride, however, in my pun being original, pre-dating this shameless plagiarism by 20 years )! Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Virus as a neuter gender #5652 08/29/00 05:07 AM Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 1,027 Switzerland wsieber old hand wsieber old hand Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 1,027 Switzerland >virus is by Latin definition a masculine noun< Hi Ted, Since the teaching of Latin is not so widespread anymore, it might not be superfluous to recall that in spite of its relative regularity, even Latin has its fair share of exceptions to formal rules. Those are probably mostly taught in the third and following years (-: ... But I have scanned the Web in the meantime, and "virus" seems to be a somewhat contentious case, not concerning its gender, which is recognized throughout as neuter, but with respect to its declension. There are no instances of its plural in the old literature. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Virus as a neuter gender #5653 08/29/00 11:48 AM Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 3,467 Marion NC TEd Remington Carpal Tunnel TEd Remington Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 3,467 Marion NC >But I have scanned the Web in the meantime, and "virus" seems to be a somewhat contentious case, not concerning its gender, which is recognized throughout as neuter, but with respect to its declension. There are no instances of its plural in the old literature. ws: My point is that virus (unless it is a very irregular noun) would take a masculine declension, even though it is considered to be neuter in gender. Nauta (sailor) and agricola (farmer) are feminine in declension but are considered masculine in gender. Their plurals are nautae and agricolae, not nauti and agricoli. I'm not familiar enough with Latin any more to be certain, but I do not remember any words with a singular -us ending in the nominate singular which became -a in the nominative plural. Being neuter in gender, virus would take a neuter adjective. Virus malum (bad poison, which is a bit of a redundancy of course) would be viri mala in the plural. Bottom line: I believe that the plural of virus is going to be viri not vira (at least in classical Latin). Now where IS that Bill Buckley fellow when we need him? Ted TEd Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Page 4 of 5 1 2 3 4 5 Moderated by  Jackie  Hop To General Topics ------  Information and announcements  Q&A about words  Wordplay and fun  Words and languages in schools  Miscellany  Weekly Themes  Looking for (writers, speakers,... (Old) Weekly themes. 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