#55402
02/05/2002 5:58 PM
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My apologies if this is YART -- it's a hard topic to search for.
I've been noticing an increased use of the designation "person" to describe a like or dislike, as in: "I'm not a pizza person." Since when did people start identifying themselves so closely with their preferences? Or has this always been going on and I just now noticed?
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02/05/2002 6:08 PM
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a hard topic to search for
And probably just as hard to document.
Often these sorts of things go on around us with barely a flicker on our radar. Suddenly we notice it somewhere and it starts appearing every where we look. The frequency hasn't increased; we just start noticing it. It's likely elliptical for I'm the sort of person who likes ________.
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02/05/2002 6:25 PM
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mmm, pretty much wot he said, for this word person.
But tell me, Faldage, something I have wonderered at odd corners of the midnight hours: why do we not say ellipsical to describe the process of ellision, rather than having this confusion with the shape of an ellipse?
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02/05/2002 6:33 PM
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I'm the sort of person who likes ________.
Or, alternatively, I'm one of those people who like________.
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02/05/2002 6:38 PM
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Troublemaker! 
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02/05/2002 6:45 PM
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Why not be direct and say: "I like....." or "I don't enjoy....."
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02/05/2002 6:54 PM
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Why not be direct and say
Because that leaves you out in the cold all by your poor lonesome with no support from others of your kind.
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02/05/2002 7:45 PM
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At the moment I can't think of any of my preferences for which I need the support of others.
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02/05/2002 8:02 PM
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People person is a common phrase I've heard, and have used, for years, denoting someone who enjoys being around and interacting with people, or not. I'm (or he's) a people person (or "...a real people person"). Or I'm (or she's) not a people person (or "...just not a people person).
I don't ever remember this, or the other "person" attachments, not being around.
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02/05/2002 8:03 PM
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preferences for which I need the support
Then don't wear the mask of personhood.
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02/05/2002 8:07 PM
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Dear Faldage: I never wore a snood of any kind.
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02/05/2002 8:20 PM
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02/05/2002 8:56 PM
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Hi Blanche - nice to see you again.
I know that the words "I am a people person" now makes interviewers cringe because it has been overused and really means nothing. Most books and articles on honing your interviewing skills tell you to avoid it like the plaque.
As to the "I'm a pizza person" type of phrase. Isn't just like the air quote scenario - just a way to sound/look cool, part of the hip crowd. I never know what is so bad about saying "I like..."
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#55416
02/06/2002 1:16 AM
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I'm a cat person. I don't really like dogs. I identify certain characteristics with cat afficionados, others with dog lovers.
There are plenty of ways to get to the same understanding, but I'm hearing a lot of this usage, seems perfectly natural to meow...
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02/06/2002 1:37 AM
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But when you are talking to people do you say it exactly like that... "I am a cat person" ?
Maybe it is because there is really no French version of this. I generally only hear this on English television and always kinda assumed that, like everything on TV, it doesn't represent the general population.
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02/06/2002 1:54 AM
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I agree with belMarduk that it too easily becomes a cliché. I like many things. The "person" phrases seem to limit the speaker. Hard to see any it makes speaker more worth getting acquainted with.Present company excepted of course.
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02/06/2002 3:28 AM
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Hard to see any it makes speaker more worth getting acquainted with. Present company
excepted of course.Aw, Dr. Bill...you're just not an AWAD person! 
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#55420
02/06/2002 3:31 AM
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I am proud to be a people person - but am in no way a spider person! (Killing spiders is womens' work at the stales place!!)
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#55421
02/06/2002 4:47 AM
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Bel, are you, or is someone in your immediate family, a dentist, that you avoid things like the plaque? 
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02/06/2002 1:17 PM
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Wait a minute stales-- if you don't kill spiders, doesn't that make a spider person?
i mean, is a cat person the one you seek out to drown a sack of cats? (No, i am not suggesting this is a good idea.. it is a bad idea.. to make my point!) So why should a spider person be the person you seek out to kill a spider?
and just why is it, we think it's ok to have dogs and cats in the house, but not ants and spiders?
definately insects have poor press--bug lovers of the world unite and save your friends!
I keep my house clean and tidy, with everything in its place.
mind you, the place for dust bunnies is under the bed, and the place for cobwebs is in the dark corners..
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02/06/2002 1:39 PM
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too right, Helen! An Ant is quite useful about the house
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02/06/2002 1:57 PM
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but am in no way a spider person! (Killing spiders is womens' work at the stales place)
You kill spiders? Those creatures that eat all the other bugs and hide in dark corners where you really have to look to find them.
Besides, didn't your Granny ever tell you that killing a spider changes the weather?
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02/06/2002 2:04 PM
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I keep my house clean and tidy, with everything in its place... dust bunnies ... under the bed, and ... cobwebs ...in the dark corners..
I'm with you Helen!
My idea of housework is to sweep the room with a glance.
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02/06/2002 11:07 PM
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Easier to sweep the room with a glance that way .
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02/06/2002 11:12 PM
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pershonally, I prefer t'sweep the room wi a glass... I don min whas innit right now, but sharer~ charder~ oh, white wine'll do...
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02/06/2002 11:15 PM
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doesn't every one use candles for lighting?
i had a party recently, and one guest said it looked like a movie set.. they didn't think real people had 100 candle on hand.
and wow, while i am in your camp about spiders in general, our friends down under have some pretty nasty spiders. a bite from a brown reclusive spider is pretty nasty (north east North American), but one from a funnelweb spider is deadly..
(don't even ask how i know this...)
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02/07/2002 12:07 AM
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killing a spider changes the weather?
Send me a spider, send me a spider!!! (Where's the hammer?) And while you're at it, send one to Bingley and Maverick...
5 days of downpours, I could do with a break - not to mention the fact that unless I kill a spider pretty darn fast, I'm going to miss out on being there to see the South Africans whip the K1W1s in the Cricket tomorrow!
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02/07/2002 12:15 AM
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My idea of housework is to sweep the room with a glance.
I have that very statement up in my kitchen, in the loungeroom one that says "This house was cleaned last week. Sorry you missed it!" and a magnet on my fridge which justifies the state of my home by saying "Dull women have immaculate houses" ... Think my family are on to me .
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02/07/2002 12:24 AM
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but one from a funnelweb spider is deadly..
(don't even ask how i know this...)
Not to mention the Redback on the toilet seat ... more Australian folklore for you!
And ok, I'll bite... How do you know about our funnelweb, of troy? Had a close encounter?
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02/07/2002 12:29 AM
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Congratulations on your newbility, hev!
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02/07/2002 12:30 AM
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Helen & wow - when you have spiders like we do in Straya it's smart to be very, very afraid!! Only two nights ago my son discovered a white tail spider on his bath towel - he was within seconds of towelling himself dry! White tails are feared for their bites - not only are they painful, but there is an as yet unknown substance (enzyme? bacteria?) in their venom which causes a creeping necrosis of the tissue around the bite. Amputations are sometimes performed - but if you are bitten on the torso then there's a problem. Post Edit: More info at: http://www.pharmacology.unimelb.edu.au/pharmwww/avruweb/wtspage.htm And don't you just love the acronym for Necrotising Arachnidism STudY - at the bootom of the page!!!I grew up in Sydney - famed for its Funnel Web, Trapdoor and Red Back spiders. Arachnophobia is commonplace there - it's a survival mechanism!! Ain't that right Hev!! I take your point about who's a spider person and who's not. My wife is not as afraid of them as I am and readily dispatches them. Guess she's not a spider person either.....after all, she is also from Sydney. stales
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HEV--You might still be stranger.. but now you're also now a newbie..congrats!
actually, back in the dark ages of computers, i had a TI99/4A (lets say early, early 1980's) and there was a small software company i dealt with.. back then everything was small and cosy.. the companies name was Funnelweb, and i looked it up.. (hard copy in those days!)sydney based.. we had a user organizition, and bought software wholesale.. helped him out too, since he didn't loose as much on lots of small check and fees to change each one. One medium check was better than 5 small!
the brown reclusive (love to hid in the wood pile, and garage) has the same sort of venom, but not as strong. a bite on your finger can cost you the finger, and bite on the arm can require surgery and 6 months or more of rehab, but it usually doesn't kill.. does leave nasty scars, since muscle underneath is damaged..
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02/07/2002 9:07 AM
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You kill spiders? Those creatures that eat all the other bugs and hide in dark corners where
you really have to look to find them.
Besides, didn't your Granny ever tell you that killing a spider changes the weather?
I heard: If you want to live and thrive, let a spider run alive
Despite their unfair history, spiders (apart from ones in Straya, Zild, SA etc.) do not do any harm to humans and actually keep the pest-insect population down.
After a while they actually grow on you. Not literally!!
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wow wrote: didn't your Granny ever tell you that killing a spider changes the weather?
I'd heard it as killing a spider will make it rain. I think it's not supposed to do anything if it's raining already. Maybe it's a prairie thing - most of the time there isn't enough rain - so it embodies the neverending hope for more rain?
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spiders like we do in Straya it's smart to be very, very afraid!!
Oh my! Our spiders are far milder and beneficial. Thanks for a reason to cease moaning that I cannot afford the airfare to visit the beauties of Down Under.
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02/07/2002 4:14 PM
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it embodies the neverending hope for more rain?or the neverending hop e for fewer spiders?
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It suddenly occurred to me that the spider bite necrosis might be a form of autoimmune disease. An important thing is that not all victims get the necrosis. There is a genetic background to autoimmune disease. I have it, associated with ankylosing spondylitis.And the long duration of necrosis suggests that venom may be long gone, but body autoimmune necrosis having ensued.
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Didn't I see one of them in Jurassic Park III?
The idiot also known as Capfka ...
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