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Thank you, Jackie and Keiva, for welcoming me and for the help and encouragement toward making a new post! Below, then, is the post I'd originally intended to make (but had mistakenly entered as a reply):
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This lurker now ventures into daylight to ask: what is the history of the word "marijuana" ("marihuana")? A friend thinks "marijuana" was coined by Randolph Hearst (?!), which I doubt; my limited dictionaries say it's of American Spanish/Latin American origin, but also add "?" and give no history of the word's usage. Could someone tell me what the OED has to say about it? - Circumstances make it rather difficult for me to get to the library.
No packages, please! Only information! : )
Thank you,
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wouldn't have a clue - but welcome aBoard Tsyganka!
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OED2 says only [Amer. Sp.], but has this lovely citation as the first print usage:
1894 Scribner's Mag. May 596/2 [The] ‘toloachi’, [and] the ‘mariguan’,..are used by
discarded women for the purpose of wreaking a terrible revenge upon recreant lovers.
edit: toloachi is evidently some variety of nightshade(!)
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The Slang and Euphemism Dictionary, Richard Spears, says that "marijuana" is from the US underworld and drug culture of the 1900s, and gives about 200 synonyms.
Origins A Short Etymological Dictionary of Modern English, Eric Partridge, offers:
marijuana or marihuana: ASp mariguana, var marihauna: o.o.o. For mariguana, a "vulgar Mexican name for the common hemp" -- whence its A use -- Santamaria tentatively suggests origin in Mariguana, one of the islands forming the Bahamas.
FWIW - even the spelling was unsettled in Michigan courts as recently as 30 years ago. We've landed on marijuana.
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one of the islands forming the Bahamas~ the original reefer? 
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~ the original reefer? No, mav...with you it's more like Reefer Madness!  now that flick was considered "camp" back in the day, to cross the thread hairsAnd other slang terms for marijuana: pot, weed, Mary Jane, smoke, grass...others I'm missing I'm sure, but, uh, I forget...
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And other slang terms for marijuana: pot, weed, Mary Jane, smoke, grass...others I'm missing I'm sure, but, uh, I forget...Well, I wouldn't know from personal experience. No way. Much. But I see that all the dire predictions about using it destroying brains cells must be true ...
The idiot also known as Capfka ...
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[green/blue]marijuana or marihuana: ASp[/green//blue] I never inhaled.
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Michael Pollan, in Botany of Desire points out that forgetfullness is the key point of a marijuana high.. it is human natare to have vast portions of our brain on autopilot.. we learn something, and then if we need it, its saved.. but the experience fades.. (like in economic- no matter how good something.. we acquire it, and become satiated..) with marijuana, everything is new again.. every experience takes on the fear, joy, excitement of a new experience... it is as if we have forgotten everything.. so the twill weave of our jeans becomes facinating.. and thing we have grown blase about.. are experienced, as if for the first time.. we have a child like wonder.. think of your favorite anything.. and think if you could experience it, as you did the first time.. get a marijuana high and you can.. and yes, long term, it can interfer with our abilities to form memories.. but every once in a while it nice to see the world through brand new eyes! (not that i do it..or maybe i just can't remember doing it. )
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with marijuana, everything is new again.. every experience takes on the fear, joy, excitement of a new experience...
He makes it sound like a real pleasant experience doesn't he...no mention of dry eyes, dry mouth and pass the Twinkies please. I don't think anybody is *excited* after smoking pot. Joy & excitement are not words associated with smoking pot - more like extremely relaxed, zoned-out, laid back or horny.
we have a child like wonder.. uh, no, we just can't focus enough on anything so our mind wanders around aimlessly.
I think this guy is laying it on a little thick. Seriously, you gotta call a spade a spade. I don't mind saying that I've smoked mari (our common French term) but I wouldn't say I had childlike wonder while doing it.
A child has wonder because it marvels at new things, it is inquisitive. Under the influence of pot you may be enjoying yourself but you are too nonchalant and laid back to be inquisitive.
forgetfullness is the key point that's right, you forget you just looked at that same twill of jeans, oh, say eight or twenty times now and where the hell you put the Twinkies.
Personnally, I think marijuana is no more/no less dangerous that alcohol and if people want to take it in moderation then they should be allowed to. But, that is the key to everything though, isn't it, moderation.
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