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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread Socrates' quote #55081 02/03/2002 9:03 PM Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 2 Monika stranger Monika stranger Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 2 Can anyone give me source for the Socrates' quote "An unexamined life is not worth living." I really want to use it in my dissertation, but need a referrence other than saying I heard it somewhere! Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Socrates' quote #55082 02/03/2002 9:22 PM Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 13,858 wwh Carpal Tunnel wwh Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 13,858 Dear Monika: The famous quote is in the Apology 38 Some one will say: Yes, Socrates, but cannot you hold your For wherever he goes he must speak out. tongue, and then you may go into a foreign city, and no one will interfere with you? Now I have great difficulty in making you understand my answer to this. For if I tell you that to do as you say would be a disobedience to the God, and therefore that I cannot hold my tongue, you will not believe that I am 38a serious; and if I say again that daily to discourse about virtue, and of those other things about which you hear me examining myself and others, is the greatest good of man, and that the unexamined life is not worth living, you are still less likely to believe me. Yet I say what is true, although a thing of which it is hard for me to persuade you. Also, I have never been accustomed to think that I deserve to suffer any harm. Had I money I might have estimated the offence at what I was able to pay, and not have been much the worse. But I have none, and 38b therefore I must ask you to proportion the fine to my means. Well, perhaps I could afford a mina, and therefore I propose that penalty: Plato, Crito, Critobulus, and Apollodorus, my friends here, bid me say thirty minae, and they will be the sureties. Let thirty minae be the penalty; for which sum they 38c will be ample security to you. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Socrates' quote #55083 02/03/2002 9:35 PM Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 2,605 Keiva Carpal Tunnel Keiva Carpal Tunnel Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 2,605 Durn you, bill. I had Evan's Quotations open to the Socrates quote... and then lost my internet connection. By the time I logged back on, you'd beaten me to it. Ah well! I cannot say "great minds think alike", but at least I am thinking in reasonable imitation of your great mind. [gotta getta betta ISP -e] Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Socrates' quote #55084 02/03/2002 9:40 PM Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 13,858 wwh Carpal Tunnel wwh Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 13,858 Dear Keiva: Beware of the alternate version, small minds run in the same creek. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Socrates' quote #55085 02/03/2002 11:05 PM Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 2 Monika stranger Monika stranger Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 2 I thought it was: 'fools seldom differ'. But whichever, I'm still well impressed. Thanks for your help. M Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Socrates' quote #55086 02/06/2002 2:36 AM Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 618 Australia doc_comfort addict doc_comfort addict Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 618 Australia Greatness of mind is irrelevant (although abundant) here. If there is only one answer, what difference between great and small? Greatness of mind implies novel thought and the similarities are of process rather than the final answer. [complaining-about-life-in-general-e] Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Socrates' quote #55087 02/06/2002 12:46 PM Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 393 London NicholasW enthusiast NicholasW enthusiast Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 393 London The original is ho de bios anexetastos ou biôtos anthrôpôi (with de sometimes omitted). Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Socrates' quote #55088 02/06/2002 12:49 PM Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Faldage Carpal Tunnel Faldage Carpal Tunnel Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 ho de bios anexetastos ou biôtos anthrôpôi Trans. The biogaphy of a lady of the night is connected to the biographies of her customers. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Moderated by  Jackie  Hop To General Topics ------  Information and announcements  Q&A about words  Wordplay and fun  Words and languages in schools  Miscellany  Weekly Themes  Looking for (writers, speakers,... 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