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Being unsure whether this thread belongs here or in Animal Safari Hi, ASp!, I take my cue from the recently-resurrected thread of similar title.
In my college days at an all-male school, a friend nicknamed his car, the trusty steed by which we traveled to the all-female schools for weekend gatherings. said last word was chosen with care. He named it after a famous literary steed, altering his choice from week to week according to mood: sometimes it was named for Don Juan's horse, sometimes for Don Quixote's.
Those names have long since faded from recall. Who then are the horses who supported our famous figures of literature and history?
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01/18/2002 9:53 PM
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Don Quixote's horse was Rosinante, which was supposed to connote something like "broken-down fleabag" per Professor John Bullitt.
Didn't ever stop to think that Don Juan _had_ a horse. Though of course he must have.
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01/18/2002 10:27 PM
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Perhaps, given his proclivities, he simply didn't need one. Most of his riding wasn't done outoors! 
The idiot also known as Capfka ...
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01/18/2002 10:37 PM
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CapK, am I gonna have to turn you in to the Gutter Police? Ah, on second thought, [sigh] they ain't any anymore... Jackie done upped and got herse'f corrupted. And it's all the Aussies' fault.
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01/18/2002 10:45 PM
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01/18/2002 11:01 PM
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I read somewhere that the name of Don Quixote's horse was a double jest. "Rosin" meant a low grade cart horse, and the "ante" meant "used to be". I never heard any mention of Don Giovanni having any special horse. I wonder if the Don Juan referred to could be Hispanic hero of the Southwest, Don Juan de Oņate, whose statue is to be three stories high, on his rearing Andalusian, "Helicon". Trust the Texans to do it on a grand scale.
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01/18/2002 11:12 PM
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I'm not Aussie but I'll take a little of the credit for helping to corrupt the Gutter Police  [raising hand timidly-e] The wood nymph
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01/19/2002 1:36 PM
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Fellow I work with has a vanity plate on his truck that reads ROSNANTE. NY state won't let him have enough letters to spell it out in its entirety.
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01/19/2002 5:17 PM
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And it's all the Aussies' fault.
Hey, stop singing NZ's national anthem.I love it, Maxie! Ho ha, here we go again!
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01/20/2002 2:02 PM
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Why not brainstorm the great horses' names?
Let's see: There's Bucephalus (sp?)--was that Alex the Great's steed?
Then the noble General Lee's Traveler (sp? again?)
Plath's Ariel...
Rogers' Trigger...
Christopher Robin's Eeyore--yeh, it's a donkey, but what the heh!
Black Beauty--but I don't know exactly who owned her all those times...
And what was the name of that most remarkable horse--a mare, I suppose--who ran one race of the Triple Crown with a broken leg and won it? I cannot remember her name...something tripping like "Pit-a-Pan" or "Tip-a-Can"? She had the best spirit of all.
And Flicka. Who owned her?
And my daughter's pony, an Arabian mare who was a flash of copper on cross country--Rosalar, the wild-hearted "Rosie" or "Rosasita." Had to include her on this list.
What other great horses or donkeys or, in general, long-legged fliers?
Oh, Pegasus. Can't forget Pegasus.
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01/20/2002 11:04 PM
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You guys jumped the gun on me. I was planning on starting a horse thread as we got closer to Chinese New Year. The coming year is the Year of the Horse. I would like to know where and when the phrase "Rode hard and put away wet." comes from. My understanding is that it refers to improper horse maintenence but is generally used as a description of someone who does not wear their years well.
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01/21/2002 12:16 AM
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WW, a filly has never won the Triple Crown--very few even enter. The name you were probably thinking of is Lil E. Tee, a colt. The story you may be thinking of is that of Ruffian, one of the gamest horses ever. I saw it on TV --you could tell the animal was done for-- and reading about it on this link made tears come to my eyes all over again. http://www.thoroughbredchampions.com/gallery/ruffian1.htm========================================================= Consuelo, horses, like humans, sweat during hard exercise. They must be walked afterwards until they have cooled down and the sweat has at least mostly dried (a good brushing at this point helps, too). If they are "put away wet", they can catch a chill, and will also get very stiff.
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01/21/2002 12:26 AM
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Why not brainstorm the great horses' names? suggests Wordwind.
Great idea. Make a game out of it? Maybe a variation of Steve Allen's "The Question Man," if we can really be clever. But start simple. So far we have
Rosinante was owned by Don Quixote, and
Bucephalus was owned by Alexander the Great
Traveller was owned by General Robert E Lee
Ariel was owned by Plath (don't know who he is, sorry to admit)
Trigger was owned by Roy Rogers
Eeyore was owned by Christopher Robin Milne ( +/- for that one)
and have been challenged to give the owners (if any) of
Black Beauty was owned by _____
Flicka was owned by _____ answered by Jackie
Pegasus was owned by _____ (fill in the blanks)
So now let's add a few:
Who owned
-- Silver
-- Scout
-- Champion
-- Topper
and -- play it in either direction --
what was the name of Dale Evans' horse?
the Cisco Kid's?
Did Gabby Hayes' horse have a name?
I'm sure there are plenty of famous horses, real or fictitious or mythological, that I don't know (not that I know all of these, either!) - let's have more names ?!
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01/21/2002 12:43 AM
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All together now: "A horse is a horse, of course, of course...
my name...is Mr. Ed! Hi, Wilburrrrrrrrrrrr!"
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01/21/2002 12:56 AM
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Flicka was owned by Ken McLaughlin, a young boy on a ranch in Wyoming.
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01/21/2002 1:05 AM
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Dear Jackie: Do you ever use a strigil? My grandfather bred trotting horses. To combat the boredom of winters in Maine over a hundred years ago, he made hundreds of strigils, out of red cedar, with beautiful workmanship. He had a horse stall four feet deep with them, which I saw when I was quite small.
I have wondered whatever became of them.
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01/21/2002 1:09 AM
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OK, here's my two cents to add to the mix. Lucas McCain rode "Razor" and Mark McCain rode "Blueboy" on "The Rifleman". "Paint" and "Chochise" were ridden by Little Joe Cartright on Bonanza and "Chub", "Paiute" and "Ginger" were ridden by Hoss. Adam rode both "Beauty" and "Sport" and Ben rode both "Buck" and "Waggoner". "Hi Ho Silver"...the Lone Ranger "Topper"...Hopalong Cassidy "Buttermilk" was Dale Evans horse I'll leave a few for the rest of you to figure out!
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01/21/2002 3:27 AM
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Oh, dear, I only got 39%. I got the important ones right, though! Thanks for the link, Angel.
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01/21/2002 3:59 AM
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Dick Turpin's horse was Black Bess.
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01/21/2002 4:02 AM
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42%, Jackie--but, if I took it again, I'd end up with different answers. Lots of guessing there.
Mr. Happy Socks???
No, Ruffian isn't the horse I'm thinking of. This was a filly, yes. And it must have been the Kentucky Derby she won with that broken leg. And it really was a name that was hyphenated--and kind of tripping along. Saw a film of her race--what a marvel.
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When Eddie the eighth was still Prince of Wales, he was noted for having his ass fall off many polo ponies
Asfaloth The horse of Glorfindel. The horse of Glorfindel, who
bore Frodo Baggins to safety at the Ford of Rivendell. ... .
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01/21/2002 3:04 PM
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How about the horse that was made a senator. Anyone know its name (I don't but ICLIU) and whose it was (I *do know that)?
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That's who I had in mind, Dr. Bill. But according to this site ( http://www.vroma.org/~bmcmanus/caligula.html) it was consul and he didn't so much do it as make a joke about it that others took seriously. Scroll down to 39CE.
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01/21/2002 6:37 PM
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Interesting that Helicon, chamberlain to Caligula, gave his name to Don Juan Oņate's horse.
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01/21/2002 7:07 PM
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We have here in Richmond, VA, a statue of the infamous Caligula. Sorry, he isn't mounted on a horse. He just stands there looking handsome. What a very strange man he was! Wonder whether it's a fake? It's not supposed to be, but you never know. I think the statue has the date somewhere about on a plaque or something: 1 A.D. I could look it up, but won't. Someone here will know.
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01/21/2002 7:32 PM
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Who ordered the construction of the Trojan Horse? Odysseus, some say with the help of Athena Who built it? the artist Epeius And who talked the Trojans into allowing the structure into the city? the Greek soldier Sinon, the only one left behind when the Greek fleet departed as a ploy to get the horse into the city Helen?
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One thing about Caligula that I did not know before was most of his siblings were murdered on command of Tiberius.
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01/21/2002 7:58 PM
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Pegasus was owned by Bellerophon (sp?), right?
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01/21/2002 8:19 PM
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Pegasus was owned by Bellopheron, according to this URL: http://www.dsokids.com/1/kidsstoryofpegasus.htmJoke on me. I was tempted to think Bellopheron was the name of a horse.
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One thing about Caligula that I did not know
Know where he got that name? It was a nickname.
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42%, Jackie--but, if I took it again, I'd end up with different answers. Lots of guessing there.Boy, you sure are right DubDub! I took it 3 times...3 different days, got a 25, a 38 and a 55.....and not in that order! 
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01/22/2002 12:31 AM
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I read a long time ago that Caligula=Little Boots was so named by the soldiers when he was a boy in Germany. Perhaps he was proud of their having liked him. But I wonder if he was called that to his face after he go into power.
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Caligula=Little Boots was so named by the soldiers when he was a boy in Germany
Two more points for Dr. Bill. He had a little army uniform that he strutted around in. His father was the general Germanicus. He was the pet of the troops and named for the little boots he wore. I think he would have continued to be proud of the name but I don't know for sure.
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01/22/2002 4:01 AM
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WW, why in the world (w/w) do you have a statue of Caligula in Richmond? It's not like he was an early R.E. Lee, or something?
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01/22/2002 4:04 AM
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All this about horses brings to mind a poem, I forget by whom (Ogden Nash ? Sounds like him):
I know two things about a horse
And one of them is rather coarse.
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Very nice, but not Nash, I can assure you. I L'edIU and found Naomi Royde-Smith (1875-1964)
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