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Cheap shots, eh? Well, I suppose it could have been cheap bourbon. On the other hand they probably just use pretzel logic in the White House.
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CK, you have again exemplified my point.
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Don't make a bet on it Max -- you'll lose. We can talk, if you like, about the difference between (a) a satire (and btw, your link's satire is absolutely inspired, both in concept and in implementation); and (b) a cheap shot.
but for now: your political sympathies, made very obvious by your utterly humourless response to this thread Sorry Max... you're jumping to an unwarranted (and mistaken) conclusion as to my political sympathies. You may not agree with my position that the above are cheap shots -- but why not respond to it, instead of making an ad hominem claim against me for having taken that position?
I simply prefer reasoned discussion, and decry an adjectival attack without factual support -- regardless of whether the party attacked is my friend, or a stranger to me, or my enemy.* I have no doubt that you do too. IMHO -- admittedly a debatable one -- that is what is at issue here.
I hope and believe that if you were to review my postings over the last months, you will find them quite consistent and forthright in that principle.
*Several years ago a suburb near me sought to restrain a group from parading and speaking in their public streets. I contributed financially toward defending the group's right of free speech. I contributed although it was a group distasteful to me: the nazis.
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Lets see what Ogden Nash has to say: AND THREE-HUNDRED AND SIXTY-SIX IN LEAP YEAR
Some people shave before bathing, And about people who bathe before shaving they are scathing, While those who bathe before shaving, Well, they imply that those who shave before bathing are misbehaving. Suppose you shave before bathing, well the advantage is that you don't have to make a special job of washing the lather off afterwards, it just floats off with the rest of your accumulations in the tub, But the disadvantage is that before bathing your skin is hard and dry and your beard confronts the razor like a grizzly bear defends its cub. Well then, suppose you bathe before shaving, well the advantage is that after bathing your skin is soft and moist, and your beard positively begs for the blade, But the disadvantage is that to get the lather off you have to wash your face all over again at the basin almost immediately after washing it in the tub, which is a duplication of effort that leaves me spotless but dismayed. The referee reports, gentlemen, that Fate has loaded the dice, Since your only choice is between walking around all day with a sore chin or washing your face twice.
Ogden Nash
IF FUN IS FUN, ISN'T THAT ENOUGH?
Child, the temptation please resist To deify the humorist. Simply because we're stuck with solons Whose minds resemble lazy colons, Do not assume our current jesters Are therefore Solomons and Nestors. Because the editorial column Is ponderously trite and solemn Don't think the wisdom of the ages Awaits you in the comic pages. There is no proof that Plato's brain Weighed less than that of Swift or Twain. If funny men are sometimes right It's second guessing, not second sight; They apply their caustic common sense After, and not before, events. Since human nature's a fait accompli They puncture it regularly and promptly. Some are sophisticates, some earthy, And none are totally trustworthy; They'll sell their birthright every time To make a point or turn a rhyme. This motto, child, is my bequest: There's many a false word spoken in jest.
Ogden Nash
LOVE UNDER THE REPUBLICANS (OR DEMOCRATS)
Come live with me and be my love And we will all the pleasure prove Of a marriage conducted with economy In the Twentieth Century Anno Donomy. We'll live in a dear little walk-up flat With practically room to swing a cat And a potted cactus to give it hauteur And a bathtub equipped with dark brown water. We'll eat, without undue discouragement, Foods low in cost but high in nourishment And quaff with pleasure, while chatting wittily, The peculiar wine of Little Italy. We'll remind each other it's smart to be thrifty And buy our clothes for something-fifty. We'll stand in line on holidays For seats at unpopular matinees, And every Sunday we'l have a lark And take a walk in Central Park. And one of these days not too remote I'll probably up and cut your throat.
Ogden Nash All poems © 1952 by Ogden Nash Cheers!
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the difference between (a) a satire and (b) a cheap shot.
Satire involves creative work on the part of the person instigating the barb. In a cheap shot all the work is done by the target.
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good-natured fun, which is all that this thread was. IYHO, calling someone a falling-down drunk is "good natured fun"?
the notion that the most powerful man in the world can nearly be shuffled off this mortal coil by a pretzel is funny Agreed. and it it based on fact. But the above claims that said most-powerful man was falling-down drunk (to which my comments are explicitly directed) are IMHO not funny or good natured.
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Some of you may have already seen this bit o' Brit humo(u)r, but I post it for those who haven't. Rubrick E'd it to me the other day: http://www.thebrainstrust.co.uk/pretzel.php
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YHO, calling someone a falling-down drunk is "good natured fun"? But the above claims that said most-powerful man was falling-down drunk (to which my comments are explicitly directed) are IMHO not funny or good natured.
Sanctimony...it's in the dictionary. Some folks should look it up.
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