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A.Word.A.Day--hat trick: Three consecutive successes
Need they be "consecutive? For example, I believe an ice- hockey scores a "hat trick" if he scores three goals in a game, regardless of whether they are consecutive.
I'd success the term applies only to a threesome (i) regardless of whether they are consecutive, but (ii) only if "three" represents a notable achievement. For example, no one would use "hat-trick" when a basketball player makes three consecutive baskets. Nor would it apply where a baseball team makes three consecutive hits, or where a baseball player makes a hit in three consecutive at-bats.
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01/10/2002 9:06 PM
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01/10/2002 9:20 PM
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in ice hockey, three consecutive goals (no intervening goals by either team) is deemed a "pure" hat trick.
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01/11/2002 2:26 AM
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A bowler must take a wicket with each of three consecutive balls. If he dismisses the last two batsmen on the opposing team, he may have to sit "on a hat-trick" for months...
Technically, a hat-trick must be three wickets with consecutive balls in the same match. The oddest hat-trick taken was that by one Mervyn Hughes (Aus) who took the ninth wicket of the first innings with the last ball of one over, the 10th (and final) wicket with the first ball of his next over, and a wicket with his first ball in the second innings.
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01/11/2002 10:05 AM
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tsuwm writes:
in ice hockey, three consecutive goals (no intervening goals by either team) is deemed a "pure" hat trick.
So, if three goals in ice hockey are scored inconsecutively is that a word?, are those goals deemed an "impure" hat trick? I just want to understand the sports jokes...
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01/11/2002 2:44 PM
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dear dubs (A key, especially one used for picking locks. Hence "dubsman" (or abbrev. dubs), a turnkey, gaoler.)
shame on you for having impure thoughts.
...oh, gaoler... never mind.
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01/11/2002 3:42 PM
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gaoler
And they laugh at US'ns for funny spellings.
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01/11/2002 5:32 PM
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I believe the original instance of this phrase was during the late 1700's during a cricket match between (i think ) The all England XI and the gentlemen of Kent . The bowler did indeed dismiss three batsmen with three consecutive deliveries, the third being one of Englands best players, who as he was leaving the pitch said to the bowler "I take my hat off to you sir " and then good-naturedly presented it to the bowler with mock ceremony. The bowler was afterwards forever being asked when he was going to "pull that hat-trick again"
There is an amusing and historically accurate account of this in one of George Macdonald Frasers Flashman novels( cant remember which one though)
P.S. Capital Kiwi I see your boys beat the aussies this morning - nice one!
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01/28/2002 1:13 PM
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Technically, a hat-trick must be three wickets with consecutive balls in the same match. The oddest hat-trick taken was that by one Mervyn Hughes (Aus) who took the ninth wicket of the first innings with the last ball of one over, the 10th (and final) wicket with the first ball of his next over, and a wicket with his first ball in the second innings.
Thanks for that, Doc. I remember seeing that match back in '92 or '93 and I didn't realise the significance of what he'd done (not could I remember the bowler until now) until Richie Benaud pointed it out to one and all. Even Geoff Boycott didn't notice it!
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01/28/2002 1:25 PM
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There is an amusing and historically accurate account of this in one of George Macdonald Frasers Flashman novels( cant remember which one though)
The book you are referring to is Flashman's Lady and the match was, indeed, between the England XI and the Gentlemen of Kent and took place in 1843 when Flashman was 21. The three batters (the term used for batsmen at the time) whom Flashman dismissed were Felix, Mynn and Pilch. The Victorian equivalents of Hadlee, Botham and Lara. Felix was dismissed by a c&b (caught and bowled), Mynn by a slow-paced ball which he misjudged and Pilch, most controversially, by lbw. Flashman jumped in the umpire's line of vision at the crucial moment and appealed knowing that the umpire was a Rugby old-boy. The umpire had no hesitation in agreeing with his school fellow despite the dubious appeal. Pilch was famed for playing whilst wearing a straw boater which he presented to Flashman with the words 'a trick like that deserves a new hat'.
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