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#5158 05/22/01 05:02 PM
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High Flight
Thank you, dear wow, for this beautiful contribution. I've never heard of the poem or the author up to now.


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Sonnets
Avy, I like the site you posted. It gives a good account of the Italian forms and the Shakesperian forms. You will have noted that the Milton sonnet quoted there is in the form ABBA(bis)CDECDE, which is somewhat unusual. The New Collossus which I quoted earlier in this thread has the form ABBA(bis)CDCDCD. John Donne, in the Holy Sonnets, used the form ABBA(bis)CDCDEE, which became a very common form. There is also the form ABAB(bis) with most of the aforementioned arrangements for the sestet. As to my preference, while I enjoy all types of sonnets, I think the Donne form the most interesting; it never gives the sing-song sound you get with some of the others.

I was also interested in the description of the ghazal, which I read about in a most interesting book set in India at the time of the partition, when it was still possible for Moslems and Hindus to be friends and share an evening of listening to ghazals being sung.

I think it is time for a new thread, so I am starting one on Sonnets etc. and will begin with one of the prototypes by Petrarch. I hope you will contribute some ghazals with some notes on their structure etc., since you don't like the notes given in the url.


#5160 05/23/01 02:00 PM
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A city different
Than Carl Sandburg's
Rises to meet the hot sky
as I politely ask pardon
for interposing myself
between two identical-looking men
screaming at each other
in a plate-glass window.
The queens are holding court
in Boys Town.
The poverty claims another victim
in Cabrini Green.
Multifarious mundane cruelties unfold
with corporate efficiency
in the suburbs.
Bienvenidos a Little Village!
where every day
more and more
es el dia de los muertos
Brought by hard-eyed men
Tattooed teardrops fall
from eye to hand,
marking them in their sorrow, these
sons and grandsons
of the first generation
who came here
and discovered:
The skyline markers of Wright
of Mies van der Rohe,
are monuments
to an America
you must crane your necks
and peer northward to see.



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If that's your own work, my dear Kit, congratulations. I enjoyed it very much. It reminds me of Ferlinghetti, one of my favorite poets, so you can take kudos for being compared to him.


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Very nice, thanks for sharing that! Now, am I jealous of your skill, or do I envy it?


#5163 05/24/01 01:44 AM
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slovovoi

A city different.......

I must add my praise and applaud the difficult work of creating your very own art. Congratulations!



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Very good, Slovovoi ... you are accomplished.



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Slovovoi,
Every time I come to this thread I reread your work, and enjoy it more each time! And that's more of a compliment than you may realize: I don't like depressing things, as a rule.
Namaste.


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slipped the surly bonds of Earth . . . and touched the face of God.

The immortal words used by Ronald Reagan after the horrible explosion of the Challenger.



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"High Flight" by John G. Magee is well known among members of the US military, especially and naturally, the U.S. Air Force.

I had it printed on the back of my late husband's Memorial Card. He was a in USAF. On the front was his picture and dates/places of birth and death with my and sons' names.
I mailed the cards to far-flung friends when I could no longer repeat or write the news another time.
Is this a practice of Memorial Cards used in other places?
What poem would you want on your card?

Tsuwm, A great idea to start this thread. Perhaps you might consider "#2" as this is getting rather long?


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