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#5078 08/09/2000 1:34 PM
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the worse verse thread seems to have petered out (at least momentarily :) -- so who wants to post some serious poesy?


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Ai-eee, terror! D'you mean original ???


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John Donne, the metaphysical one:


"Death be not proud, though some have called thee
Mighty and dreadfull, for, thou art not so,
For, those, whom thou think'st, thou dost overthrow,
Die not, poore death, nor yet canst thou kill me.
 
From rest and sleepe, which but thy pictures bee,
Much pleasure, then from thee, much more must flow,
And soonest our best men with thee doe goe,
Rest of their bones, and soules deliverie.
 
Thou art slave to Fate, Chance, kings, and desperate men,
And dost with poyson, warre, and sicknesse dwell,
And poppie, or charmes can make us sleepe as well,
And better then thy stroake; why swell'st thou then;
One short sleepe past, wee wake eternally,
 
And death shall be no more; death, thou shalt die."
 



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The onbly three line limerick:

There once was a fellow from France,
Who waited nine years for his chance.
Then he muffed it.



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That belongs on the worse verse thread, Ted.


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In Time of 'The Breaking of Nations'

Only a man harrowing clods
In a slow silent walk
With an old horse that stumbles and nods
Half asleep as they stalk.

Only thin smoke without flame
From the heaps of couch-grass;
Yet this will go on the same
Though Dynasties pass.

Yonder a maid and her wight
Come whispering by:
War's annals will cloud into night
Ere their story die.

Hardy


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I'm Nobody! Who are you?
Are you - Nobody - Too?
Then there's a pair of us?
Don't tell! they'd advertise - you know!

How dreary - to be - Somebody!
How public - like a frog -
To tell one's name - the livelong June -
To an admiring Bog!

Emily Dickinson (Nobody? No way.)


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Fra Giovanni gave us these immortal words in 1513:

"No heaven can come to us unless our hearts find rest in
today. Take heaven!
No peace lies in the future that is not hidden in this
present moment. Take peace!
The gloom of this world is but a shadow. Behind it, yet
within reach, is joy.
There is a radiance and glory in the darkness, could we but
see, and to see we have only to look. I beseech you to
look.
Life is so generous a giver..."




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Estranged from beauty none can be --
For beauty is infinity

And power to be finite ceased
Before identity was leased.
-E. D.


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I guess it was from fairy tales I learned
a puissant immortality, and then discerned
the words involved were lovelier than blocks
and equally oblivious of clocks.

when the facts of birth were straightened out
in time to know what life was all about,
I assumed, though saying nothing indiscreet,
that I was more or less complete.

now those old volumes of my aping trust
reveal provisos I never had discussed,
tracing an acquired taste for dust.

if I rightly understand the way it goes:
as naturally as looking out on winter snows,
I wind up wearing bones for clothes.


[roll over, Fra Giovanni]


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Michael, I...I...hardly know what to say. You are
incredibly brave, for one thing. And, I think you are right. Bones with no living flesh on them are, actually,
dead. But it is ALWAYS possible to revive the dry dust--
it just takes the water of life (I am not speaking religiously) being poured in: love is the best form of this.

This seems to be a day for heartfelt posts.


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For dearest Jackie, no fan of Shakespeare though she be (witness an earlier thread)
A truly sublime sonnet ...

Shall I compare thee to a summer's day?
Thou art more lovely and more temperate;
Rough winds do shake the darling buds of May
And summer's lease hath all too short a date;
Sometimes too hot the eye of heaven shines,
And often is his gold complexion dimmed;
And ev'ry fair from fair sometimes declines,
By chance, or nature's changing course untrimmed;
But thy eternal summer shall not fade ...

... To know what's next, YHTLIU;
And find what William truly said of you.

lusy


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OH! I...I...am completely overwhelmed, but not so much that I don't know what to say! THANK YOU! Thank you!
Thank you! You are an absolute darling! I love you! You
have my heart forever!
How could anyone NOT look it up, after that?? I shall type the rest:

"Nor lose possession of that fair thou owest;
Nor shall Death brag thou wander'st in his shade,
When in eternal lines to time thou growest;
So long as men can breathe, or eyes can see,
So long as lives this, and this gives life to thee."




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For dearest lusy,
a heartfelt counterpoint
that applies to you!

My Heart Leaps Up

My heart leaps up when I behold
A rainbow in the sky:
So was it when my life began;
So is it now I am a man;
So be it when I shall grow od,
Or let me die!
The Child is father of the Man;
And I could wish my days to be
Bound each to each by natural piety.

William Wordsworth, March 26, 1802


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tsuwm, encouraged by your bravery, I'll post something original too. (This was an exercise from my writing class - apparently a sestina, definitely the most taxing poetic form I've come across in English)

Keeping Together

My sun, my moon, my stars - you are the light
that gilds the summer days within my heart.
I do not know or care if this is right.
I'm more concerned - and have been from the start
of this our love - by twisted Fate, that might
find cruel ways to tear our souls apart.

For in the briefest hour we spend apart
my senses fail, my spinning head is light.
I lose my very self, till with a start
I know your voice or touch and all is right.
The storm subsides - your presence soothes my heart
to rock in sweet content as infants might.

Do you recall - I rather think you might -
we swore that we would never be apart?
Then, from the fading of the evening light
until the sun called the new day to start,
I grasped your tiny hands and held them right
where they could feel the trembling of my heart.

Do you remember how it beat, that heart,
and pushed against your touch with all its might?
How you leaned close, how lips barely apart
breathed soft with love and stars and laughter light?
And then we kissed… It was the start
of my belief our love would come out right.

But now it seems you'll exercise your right
to tear the bleeding entrails of my heart.
The hold I have upon you is too light -
you'd leave, and rip our close embrace apart.
Your soul succumbs and knows another's might -
our game's played out so yours and his can start.

I cannot understand. When did it start?
Just when and how was it you seized the right
to play these deadly tricks upon my heart?
I thought we loved as true as any might,
but I was wrong, and now that we're apart,
my shattered dreams will never see the light

Yet in the cold dawn light, when I wake with a start,
though it might break my heart, I will not prove you right.
E'en though you said I might, I will not fall apart.



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Bridget, that is so beautiful. Thank you very much for posting it. Me old mate Bill should be jealous of your pentameters! Perhaps not, but it was really lovely. Thanks!

lusy


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Oh, Bridget!!

What an impact! Oh, if anyone has ever loved, they will just devour those words!
And for someone who has never loved, this will make them
cry for what they've missed.
Thank you, Dearest Bridget. How very lovely!


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<the worse verse thread seems to have petered out (at least momentarily :)>

Gallantly swallowing the momentarily (I'm sure I can get used to this if I try....), let's get back to wrose verse. I used to know someting that ended up

...then Peter's ?? will pall
and Paul's will peter out.

Can anyone give me the complete version?

And where does 'peter out' come from anyway?


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>And where does 'peter out' come from anyway?

unknown; but, once again, speculation is rife.

http://www.cam.org/~jennyb/lasto3.html


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"Remember me when I am gone away,
Gone far away into the silent land;
When you can no more hold me by the hand,
Nor I half turn to go, yet turning stay.
Remember me, when no more day by day,
You tell me of our future that you planned:
Only remember me; you understand
It will be late to counsel then or pray.
Yet if you should forget me, for a while
And afterward remember, do not grieve;
For if the darkness and corruption leave
A vestige of the thoughts that once I had,
Better by far you should forget and smile
Than that you should remember and be sad."

Christina Rosetti


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And where does 'peter out' come from anyway

Apologies for reviving an ancient topic, but I was doing some antiyart searching and just happened across it.

I don't know, but the verb "to peter" in bridge means to play a higher card than necessary followed next time round by a lower one, for example from A-7-3 or 7-3) the 7 then the 3 to request same again. I have always idly thought (with no evidence) that the connotation of high to low in bridge had some connection to "peter out".

Rod


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WHEN I have fears that I may cease to be
Before my pen has glean'd my teeming brain,
Before high pil`d books, in charact'ry,
Hold like rich garners the full-ripen'd grain;
When I behold, upon the night's starr'd face,
Huge cloudy symbols of a high romance,
And feel that I may never live to trace
Their shadows, with the magic hand of chance;
And when I feel, fair creature of an hour!
That I shall never look upon thee more,
Never have relish in the faery power
Of unreflecting love;—then on the shore
Of the wide world I stand alone, and think,
Till Love and Fame to nothingness do sink.

John Keats

(one of my personal favorites-- one of about ten poems i still know by heart)


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so many beautiful postings in this thread.
a few people were brave enough to post original poems.
proud would be a better word - they were powerful. i'm certainly not brave, just a six-pack the wiser!
this from me:


To a Statue

I know you like an unknown:
your loose-hipped grace
and small-lipped face
carved from a foreign stone.

Such perfection moved and saw!
But stuck where lightning struck
marbled your veins and bleached your eyes
and tilt your head to miss my space
and movement knows no more.


Your knowing hands would know my face
but purposed they
with fingers splay
sense through my ductile space.

How to align your eyes with mine!
But mighty trees have seasons' leaves
and beauty can't with flesh alloy
nor mind grow old but death betray
and wear the great decay of time.


Hands closed your rippled ribs around
locked in a flood
of stone cold blood
and breath held without sound.

Remember when your flesh was hewn!
And music scraped your sand-spun cape
and fingers dragged you from the rock:
back there you tread with noiseless thud
and to the mud of earth return.


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Being in my office with no poetry books handy, one of the few I know by heart:

The New Colossus

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame
With conqu'ring limbs astride from land to land,
Here by our sea-washed sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is th'emprisoned lightning, and her name,
Mother of exiles. From her beacon hand
Flows world-wide welcome. Her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp," cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore;
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me!
I lift my lamp beside the golden door."

- Emma Lazarus

(The inscription on the Statue of Liberty)


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Being in my office with no poetry books handy, one of the few I know by heart:

-- ditto:




Tragedy

I always wanted a red balloon
They only cost a dime
But Ma said it was risky,
They broke too quickly
And besides,
She didn’t have the time
And even if she did,
She didn’t think they were worth a dime.

We lived in the country
And I only went
To one circus and fair
And all the balloons
I ever saw were there.
There were green ones
And yellow ones
But the kind I liked the best were red
And I don’t see why
She couldn’t have stopped and said,
Well, maybe I could have one.
But she didn’t.

I live in the city now
And I’ve got the time
And no one to tell me how to spend my dime
Plenty of balloons –
But somehow,
Something has died inside of me
And I don’t want one, now.



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[Although I profess to know these lines by heart, I was reluctant to trust memory cells o'er -taxed with relentless years. I peeked. (Don't even THINK "peaked"!)]

Rose Aylmer .......Walter Savage Landor

Ah, what avails the sceptred race!
Ah, what the form divine!
What every virtue, every grace!
Rose Aylmer*,all were thine

Rose Aylmer*, whom these wakeful eyes
May weep, but never see,
A night of memories and of sighs
I consecrate to thee.

* (Note -- One may here (*) substitute another name of one's own choosing provided, of course, that one does not violate Mr. Landor's graceful meter.)

Scribbler



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(Don't even THINK "peaked"!)

Worshipped-from-afar Scribbler: I cannot imagine that you have peaked yet!
"...the best is yet to be..."
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william: thank you. You know that has special meaning for me.
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Sparteye: how terribly, terribly sad.




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I know this is an old revived thread (the most beautiful of threads?) .
I know Tsuwm has not slipped back to addict
And then I see William's post!
I am happy to see him back. I want to say welcome ..
But Wait!
I check the date. Yes it is current. So he is really back. This is not an old post.
Make sure. Make sure.
Yes, I am now sure enough to speak.

Welcome back William. Good to have you back. I have missed your posts.



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Sparteye,
I loved your poem.
Perhaps we want most those things which are not within our grasp?


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But when the melancholy fit shall fall
Sudden from heaven like a weeping cloud,
That fosters the droop-headed flowers all,
And hides the green hill in an April shroud;
Then glut thy sorrow on a morning rose,
Or on the rainbow of the salt sand-wave,
Or on the wealth of globed peonies;
Or if thy mistress some rich anger shows,
Imprison her soft hand, and let her rave,
And feed deep, deep upon her peerless eyes.

Ode to Melancholy
John Keats




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william-

Your poem is beautiful. It reminds me of the Greek myth of Pygmalion and Galatea. Pygmalion created a statue of the perfect woman, then fell in love with her. Aphrodite brought her to life for him (more details can be found online). I was curious - is your poem related to this story? I really enjoy the imagery, especially the second stanza.


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francais,

thank you very much for you comments.
actually i didn't know the story of pygmalion.
from memory, i wrote that quite a few years ago after seeing
the face of a statue and thinking how sad it would
be to fall in love with something not living
(or not living anymore).
had a similar feeling when i met the bust of nefertiti, too.
on the other hand, the only thing you can really worship is perfection, is it not?

if i'm asked again about the poem
i'll whip out the ol' pygmalion story, though...

thank you.



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>the only thing you can really worship is perfection, is it not?
Or the little perfections in the whole.



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Or the little perfections in the whole.

avy,

well put.




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Sir William, I'm with Frankie-Pie; when I read your poem, I immediately thought of Pygmalion. Nice work, Sir!


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Perhaps we want most those things which are not within our grasp?

I think that is part of it, Francais. But also, that our capacity for certain treasured aspects of life - small joys, deep affections, trust and love, to name a few - can be killed if not nurtured. A cold childhood can raise a barren adult.

For a more self-induced regret, here is:


Days

Daughters of Time, the hypocritic Days,
Muffled and dumb like barefoot dervishes,
And marching single in an endless file,
Bring diadems and fagots in their hands.
To each they offer gifts after his will,
Bread, kingdoms, stars, and sky that holds them all.
I, in my pleachèd garden, watched the pomp,
Forgot my morning wishes, hastily
Took a few herbs and apples, and the Day
Turned and departed silent. I, too late,
Under her solemn fillet saw the scorn.


--Ralph Waldo Emerson




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It was a Maine lobster town--
each morning boatloads of hands
pushed off for granite
quarries on the islands,


and left dozens of bleak
white frame houses stuck
like oyster shells
on a hill of rock,


and below us, the sea lapped
the raw little match-stick
mazes of a weir,
where the fish for bait were trapped.


Remember? We sat on a slab of rock.
From this distance in time,
it seems the color
of iris, rotting and turning purpler,


but it was only
the usual gray rock
turning the usual green
when drenched by the sea.


The sea drenched the rock
at our feet all day,
and kept tearing away
flake after flake.


One night you dreamed
You were a mermaid clinging to a wharf-pile,
and trying to pull
off the barnacles with your hands.


We wished our two souls
might return like gulls
to the rock. In the end,
the water was too cold for us.


--Robert Lowell




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Fog


The fog comes
on little cat feet.

It sits looking
over harbor and city
on silent haunches
and then moves on.

--Carl Sandburg


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Sea-Fever
By John Masefield

I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky,
And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by;
And the wheel's kick and the wind's song and the white sail's shaking,
And a gray mist on the sea's face, and a gray dawn breaking.

I must go down to the seas again, for the call of the running tide
Is a wild call and a clear call that may not be denied;
And all I ask is a windy day with the white clouds flying,
And the flung spray and the blown spume, and the sea-gulls crying.

I must go down to the seas again, to the vagrant gypsy life,
To the gull's way and the whale's way, where the wind's like
a whetted knife;
And all I ask is a merry yarn from a laughing fellow-rover,
And quiet sleep and a sweet dream when the long trick's over.


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I wandered lonely as a cloud
That floats on high o'er vales and hills,
When all at once I saw a crowd,
A host, of golden daffodils;
Beside the lake, beneath the trees,
Fluttering and dancing in the breeze.

Continuous as the stars that shine
And twinkle on the milky way,
They stretched in never-ending line
Along the margin of a bay:
Ten thousand saw I at a glance,
Tossing their heads in sprightly dance.

The waves beside them danced; but they
Out-did the sparkling waves in glee:
A poet could not but be gay,
In such a jocund company:
I gazed-- and gazed-- but little thought
What wealth the show to me had brought:

For oft, when on my couch I lie
In vacant or in pensive mood,
They flash upon that inward eye
Which is the bliss of solitude;
And then my heart with pleasure fills,
And dances with the daffodils.

Wordsworth (an aptronym if there ever was one)


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