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#49193 12/03/01 01:02 AM
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There is special language used during this season for Christians. Comments?


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Well, this morning at church, the children put decorations on the Chrismon tree.

For an explanation, you can try http://pws.gamewood.net/~chrismon/Chrismons/


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There is special language used during this season for Christians.
You mean secret symbol stuff like the "ichthus"? Or "eucharist" or all of the above?


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I must confess, Anna, I don't know what you are referring to. However, here is an interesting (I think) bit of language trivia.

The Sunday which immediately precedes the season of Advent used to be called "The Sunday Next before Advent". (In the more modern Kalendar now in use, it's the Feast of Christ the King.) From Tudor times (i.e., from the publication of the first Book of Common Prayer in England, 1549) this day was popularly known as "Stir-Up Sunday", from the collect for the day (particular prayer for that Sunday), which went, "Stir up, we beseech thee, O Lord, the wills of thy faithful people; that they, plenteously bringing forth the fruit of good works, may by thee be plenteously rewarded, through Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen." Thus, the goodwives of the parish were reminded that it was time to stir up their plum puddings and fruitcakes, which they did in the week following so they would have time to age before Christmas.

Thomas Cranmer wrote this on the basis of the collect for the 3rd Sunday in Advent (Gaudete Sunday) in the old Latin liturgy used before the English Reformation, which started, "Excite, Domine, quaesumus, potentiam tuam et veni ..." and which he replaced by a totally different prayer. While the old "Stir up" collect is gone now from Anglican prayerbooks, much to the sorrow of many lovers of the old Elizabethan liturgy, happily the old Latin collect has gained new life; after more than 400 years, it is now back where it belongs, Gaudete Sunday (Advent III), and starts, in the modern English version, "Stir up your power, O Lord, and with great might come among us; ...", which is an almost literal translation of the old Latin version.


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What does Gaudete mean?

I once made a plum pudding by a very old recipe--hardest part was finding beef suet.

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What does Gaudete mean?

Rejoice! (plural imperative)


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re:What does Gaudete mean?
the third sunday of Advent, the vestments are Pink, (not the somber deep purple) and its supposted to be a time of rejoying-- (as i recall, and this is a dim memory) the gospel message is about John the baptist, who proclaims that the saviour is coming... and it was the only sunday in advent that there was song.. (oh come, oh come Emmanual, and randsom captive israel..)

and as for suet, butchers ususally have it, and grocery store meat departments can get it easily by request. warmed, (melted) and mixed with bird seed, it can be shaped for pretty bird feeders.. (the cold air keeps it stiff enough out side..) and the birds like the extra calories from the fat in the winter.
(avoid sunflower seeds, the shell have a chemical that acts as a herbiside.. the will inhibit anything from germinating.) all the other seeds should be toasted for an hour in a 200 degree oven... or you'll get a nice crop of weeds where ever you bird feeder was hung.. (or cheat, and use rolled oats with suet... rolled oats won't germinate, they are cheap, and left overs can (sans suet) can be served for breakfast!


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Gaudete Sunday takes its name from the Epistle reading proper for that day, which is Philippians 4:4 "Rejoice in the Lord alway: and again I say, Rejoice! ..." In Latin, this starts, "Gaudete semper in Domino"

The 4th Sunday in Lent is called Laetare Sunday and is similar to Gaudete. The proper liturgical color for Laetare, like Gaudete, is rose, or pink, although rose vestments are rarely seen, since few churches could afford a special set used only twice a year. In Anglican churches, blue vestments are often used in Advent in lieu of violet.

[rant] Helen, the color used in Advent and Lent is not purple; purple is a color proper to Bishops and is more red than blue. What you are talking about is correctly called "violet", which is more blue than red. [/rant]

While I'm ranting, here's another one. I hate it when people, merchandisers in chief, refer to the period from roughly Thanksgiving to New Years as the "Christmas Season". Strictly speaking, (ecclesiastically, that is) we are now in the season of Advent, which begins on the Sunday nearest the feast of St. Andrew (Nov. 30) whether before or after, and goes to Christmas Eve. On Dec. 25, we begin the season of Christmas, which lasts exactly 12 days (the 12 Days of Christmas) to Jan. 5 (12th Night) and is followed on Jan 6 by the season of Epiphany.



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I hate it when people, merchandisers in chief, refer to the period from roughly Thanksgiving to New Years as the "Christmas Season".

Well said, Byb - as a fully paid-up nit-picking pedant, I thoroughly agree with your rant, and will stand beside you (or even behind you, if the going gets rough !) to support you to the hilt!


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Aw, shucks, whatever became of good old Dies Natalis Solis Invictus? It made much more sense to me.
What would all the merchandisers do with it, do you suppose?

Geoff the pagan


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