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2. And you like Hane's best WHAT next to yourself?

Dear TEd: If I told you, it would upset Faldage.


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Spanish Harlem

Swedish meatballs (not ever to be confused with Norwegian meatballs)

Tasmanian Devil

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I'd imagine they'd advertize Hamms in OZ as "from the Land down under"


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Has anyone mentioned Hungarian goulash? Yecch!


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Dear WW: your Hungarian goulash must have been made from the wrong kind of galoshes.


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Dear TEd: I never had a girlfriend named Hane. But I had one named Juana. She was wonderful. Every time I said "Dia Juana" She said "Si." And you should have seen what I saw.

Hi, Faldage.


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Dear wwh: That's it! I forgot to add the galoshes to the goulash! Back to the kitchen, my nemesis, by the way...

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This reminds me of an old "riddle" (or what ever it *should be called)...

Q - How do you get out of a room that has no doors and no windows, and has 2 mirrors and a table in it as furnishings?

A - Look in the mirrors and see what you saw. Take the saw and cut the table in half, and since two halves make a whole you can climb out the hole.


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musick, our non-native-English speakers will love that one.
And only you could get INto a room with no doors or windows, in the first place!


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Sorry to stop the music musick - but Tasmanian Devils DO come from Tasmania - and Tasmania alone.

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but Tasmanian Devils DO come from Tasmania - and Tasmania alone.

Well, not quite, stales...theres's a Tas that hails from the Warner Bros. Cartoon Studios!


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By the sound of its name, it'd be fair to assume that broccoli was Italian.

It ain't - it's Chinese.

stales


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re Tassie Devils

Aw come on WO'N, you're stretching it a bit here. That's the same as saying things like dalmatians, lions, large eared elephants, cuddly toys (eg Winnie and Piglet), Muggles and vintage flying cars also come from Hollywood.

Putting this to one side, do you remember the first WB cartoon in which Tas appeared? I recollect that he was in a box on a wharf - having been shipped there from Australia. Along with a kangaroo I think.

Didn't we have a discussion like this over Amerigo Vespucci's name?

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"Kiwi" fruit!


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And the near destruction of the American elm--hasn't it been by Dutch elm disease? I could be manged here...

Curious,
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By the sound of its name, it'd be fair to assume that broccoli was Italian.
It ain't - it's Chinese.

IT IS Italian !!!!! I mean, the green vegetables.
Broccoli is plural, from broccolo. By extension, broccolo means also a very stupid person.


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Hi, E, you will like this: I just checked the dictionary, and it looks like the Italian word for head is testa. Do you-all ever call anyone "broccolo-testa"? My daughter and her friends at school used to say this one boy was a "broccoli-head", because of his odd hairstyle (temporary, thank goodness): he had it tied up in these little knots all over his head. Should I tell her they were calling him stupid? Actually, he's not--he won a place in an international band competition, and got to go to Europe this summer.


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stales and emanuela,

Maybe Marco Polo brought it back to Italy and now most of the western world uses the Italian name for the vegetable native to China.

(as for 'broccolo' meaning a stupid person, thanks for that, emanuela! I love learning slang in other languages)


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dutch elm disease was first identified in holland.. even if it didn't originate there... so

but Vienna finger cookies..
and is prussian blue from Prussia?

dutch tulips (tulips name come from the idea that the flowers looked like turban..) and the plants original came from Turkey

and i was wondering.. does any other language have the some problem we have in english with Holland? also commonly known at ther Neatherlands, but the inhabitants are routinely called Dutch!



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of Troy... The turbans and the tulips curiously bring us around full circle to your opening post.

That said, what does the word "tulip" have to do with "turban"?

I would like to add that for the longest time I thought paisley came from some exotic locale like Turkey or Indian or Pakistan. I was astonished to learn that paisley was a pattern that came out of Scotland----so un-plaid!!

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The word tulip is from the turkish tulbent--the turkish word for turban..

so now, faldage-- let me know: is Taliban from turban too, or is from an entirely different root, and related to talisman.. ( from greek for consecrated?) since some weeks past you pointed out "some of us even know what taliban means..." i suspect the latter...

and while we are in the general neighborhood.. Jerusalem Artichokes any one?


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Thanks, of Troy, for tulbent.

I found this on One Look:

"turban
a type of headdress formed by wrapping a long cloth sash around the head or a cap and which is worn especially by Muslim and Sikh men.
Dutch: tulband (de)" [Hmmm...a Dutch tulband is a turban.]

...that's getting closer to Taliban!

WW


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Well, there's the Kiwis from NZ, the Septics from the US and those Pommy b*****ds from England, but that wasn't really what you meant, was it?

And just a F-everyones-I, Holland refers to two of the coastal provinces, North and South Holland. The name of the country is the Netherlands.


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is Taliban from turban too, or is from an entirely different root, and related to talisman.. ( from greek for consecrated?)

No. It means student. It comes from a Farsi root with a Pashto suffix, if memory serves. William Safire covered it in his NYTimes magazine column some time ago, back in September (was it that long ago? one of the three signs)


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Yes, doc, on a map its the Netherlands, but here in NY, Holland would be used interchangible.. most NY's would know the "Holland-American Lines" (do they still exist? their name remains on piers..) and the Holland tunnel.. and Holland show up in local brands (Holland Farms is big dairy cooportive, so is associated with milk, cheese, ice cream)
given that only 7 people in all of the US know geography, they would have trouble finding it on a map, but the would tell you the Dutch lived there.. (complete with wooden shoes!, and the little boy who put his finger in the dike was from there..)

and Pommy b*****ds, is definately an down under expression.. I don't know what they are called elsewhere, but in my childhood they where always Bloody Brits-- followed closely by a warning Language!- with the 'Mind Your' intro to be understood.

and where did the Septics from the US come from... i have never heard that one before!


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and the childrens game

Chinese Jump-rope


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and where did the Septics from the US come from... i have never heard that one before!


Septic (tank)s = Yanks.

Well, you did ask.

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Howye

Howabout - France is Baken - is that wordy of the list?

GT


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It's good ta see yew *guys diggin' six degrees deep intada archives, especially since yer pullin' some of my gems owta da land down under{..wa-a-ter..}Hi, TEd

Guinea worm is capitalized 'cuz it comes from that region, but howabowda 'guinea pig'?


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or a 'guinea fowl' -- and the same word is used as slur term for italians (guineas). (why? i don't know.. see end)

about five years ago, there was a big effort (successful, too) to change the name of "Guinea Woods Road" in the Town of Westbury, NY since is was percieved to be an ethnic slur.

an investigation unearth that the road was name for the guinea fowl that used to be common there abouts. but the the road name was changed.
an other slur name for italian is Wops. allegedly, this come from the imigration of Sicilians who had moved to Naples, and where later deported from Naples. (after the unification of italy in the 1860's) not wanting to return to Sicily, they came to US-- but they had no passports or papers.. so there immigration forms where stamped WOP (with out papers)


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