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#47880 11/16/01 07:14 AM
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from Scientific American of David Crystal's latest book, "Language and the Internet" can be found at http://www.sciam.com/2001/1201issue/1201reviews1.html. Apparently the book was one of the few items the reviewer took with her on 11 Sept. when she left her apartment near the WTC.

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Cool, Bingley, thank you! It was interesting, seeing that chart with abbreviations; some have been here, and some not. (But I didn't like that they had bg, for big grin: it should be EG, for "enormous grin". tsuwm has said so, and so therefore, it IS that way.)

I do have a question, based on this line the writer used: cc, for example, has a new gloss as "complimentary copy," now that carbon copies are a distant memory.
When and how did the word gloss come to be used in this sense, please?


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cc, for example, has a new gloss as "complimentary copy," now that carbon copies are a distant memory.
Jackie asks : When and how did the word gloss come to be used in this sense, please?
OED says : "a similar explanation of a word in a glossary or dictionary. Also, (more widely) a comment, an explanation, an interpretation, a paraphrase. A collection of such words, a glossary, an interlinear translation or series of annotations. A disingenuous explanation, comment on or explain a word, read a different sense into" and it goes on and on.
That any help?
I have, and sometimes use, a typewriter which is handy when power fails! Not too long ago had to visit three stationery stores before finding one that still *stocks carbon paper!



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thanks for that, Bingley. I had no idea Crystal had written such a book. I will buy it posthaste.

Meanwhile, Jackie, EG means something somewhat different [eg]
don't believe everything tsuwm tells you; remember, he did time in the Museum of Questionable Medical Devices


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>EG, for "enormous grin". tsuwm has said so

I don't recall saying any such. for the record, here is what I believe:

e.g. = exempli gratia
<eg> = evil grin
<EG> or <beg> = big evil grin

hth.


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That list of initialisms or whatever they were called in the review are a curse and an abomination. They aren't worth remembering, and there is no easy way to look them up. So tmwfit, tr abofsh,dya? I htrsf.
Abrevions made sense in Western Union days, when you paid by the letter. But now if is so easy to type with keyboard and easy correction, it seems only common courtesy to spell things out.If ydli, kma.


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yes, yes, bill, you're right-- but it is a fact we can think faster than we can talk, and talk faster tham most of us can type..

on a Bulliten Board, like this, short hand does seem out of place.. but in a chat room (and Sparteye has hosted a few chats over on Yahoo..) things are fast and furious.. and then short hand helps..

problem is, once you learn the short hand, it tends to creap in.. to all of your internet communications.. just like verbal short hand creaps in.. so we end up with "gunna" and "Wacha" (hey marty, wacha doing tonight? --i dunno, wacha doing?) creaping into spoken language.. and speakers like me, end up saying jurrin.. not during. the inital sound is slurred, and the final sound is dropped.. and thing like 'fagetabootit" or "jeet?" (did you eat?) become almost a joke.. but every one get them.. and way to many say them.

and since typing is even a slower way to communicate.. Ugot2 get with the program it is they way of the future. might as well stand on the shore and try to stop the tide from coming in!



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there is no easy way to look them up

http://www.astro.umd.edu/~marshall/abbrev.html

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>So tmwfit, tr abofsh,dya? I htrsf....kma.

dear bill, I tried to find those in the CLOKA, but they don't seem to be there -- except for that last one.
<vbeg>


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" and then short hand helps.." The writer, but not the reader. So fthfn writer. He can kma, I just won't bother to read his crap.


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